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1 year ago  ::  Mar 03, 2012 - 11:49AM #1
SaltandPepper
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So I've always loved the indpendent droids like 4-LOM, and I really want to play one. 

So why am I making a thread you ask? Because I'm confused as hell about how to play droids...
I've skimmed the section on playing "stock" droids before, because that is what I want to do, and it didn't make much sense to me.  Can someone please explain how to do this?

I was thinking about a IG-86, maybe a LOM series.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 03, 2012 - 12:07PM #2
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what part of it do you need help with regarding them? if you want to know where to find them the IG-86 is in the clone wars CG page. 71
the LOM series one can be found in the Rebellion Era CG pg. 55

the IG starts off as a level 1 soldier; the LOM starts as a level 1 nonheroic class
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 03, 2012 - 12:23PM #3
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Ok, 3 ways to play a droid:

1.  Custom model (built from the ground up)

2.  Standard droid model (playing an existing droid as written by the rules)

3.  Stock Droid Chassis (treat as a 'species', with each chassis granting different pros and cons) 


So what I gather is you want to do #2.  Here's how you do it shorthand:  If the droid is Nonheroic 3 or 1st level heroic (Jedi, Noble, etc.), you must have a basic or heruistic processor, you can add accessories to yourself, but the total cost must not exceed 5000 credits (anything not spent is lost), and you start with standard cash (3d4 * 250).  You then continue with character creation as normal.  If the droid you choose to play is Nonheroic 1 or 2, you may add 1 level of Heroic for 1500 credits, but otherwise proceed as above.  When you are finished with the above, proceed with character creation as normal.

So if you are going for IG-86, simply add accessories (making sure you stay 5000 creds or less) and then play as normal.

If you go with the LOM droid, add a heroic level for 1500, add accessories (stay 5000 or less), and then play as normal.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 03, 2012 - 12:55PM #4
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sienn sconn is right about the three official ways to create a droid character.  Two methods are mentioned in the SECR and the chassis are found in SGtD.

Option 1:  Custom Droid.  Get stats.  Apply modifiers based on degree and possibly size.  Figure out systems when given free heuristic processor, two arms (which I take to include any basic appendage type including hands),  and a locomotive system.  You then have an additional 1000 credits for more accessories which will make you your initial chassis.  After you have all of this you will select a heroic class and start at a 1st-level hero.

Option 2:  Playing a standard droid.  Pick droid model that is no more that NH3 or heroic 1 and is small or medium sized.  If it has a remote process your must install at least a basic processor.  If you it has one or two levels of non-heroic you may by a heroic level for 1500 credits.  Now your final cost can NOT exceed 5000 credits; this cost includes the standard droid's cost (a 3PO cost 3000 credits) along with any required processor upgrade and perhaps a heroic level.  You can add additional accessories if you are below that cost.

Option 3:  Droid Chassis.  These are basically droid "species" and are plug and play just like any other species.

In all honesty #2 is the worst option.  This is because there are relatively few droids that come in under the restrictions and because most droids start in non-heroic you will have terrible stats and hitpoint.  Even if you want to play a "standard droid" your best option is to use a Custom or Chassis build and say it's appearance is like that of the standard droid you want to play and select equipment to help fill that visualization.      
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 2:13PM #5
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Um... StevenO quite a few droids that can be played as characters cost more than 5,000.  I'm pretty sure that just applies to the heroic class, possible purchase of a processor and other accessories.  A great example would be the TC-SC Infiltration Droid (146 SGtD) which costs over 20,000 but can still be played.  Actually considering playing one.

Another question:  Is it possible to mechanically remove the behavioral inhibitor that prevents you harming sentients?  With a mechanics or use computer check perhaps?  If so I'm going to play a LOM series.

EDIT:  Also, I read it over and I think I understand droid creation to a decent degree now.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 2:40PM #6
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And thank you all.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:00PM #7
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No, that 5000 final cost IS the total cost for the standard droid before you begin play.  This does cause all kinds of problems when you run into some books which have droids costing more then that limit but then they go and say "can be played as droid heroes."  The SGtD then goes and throws another wrench into things when it reprices (starts on pg 37) droids.  All of this headache and hassle is a big reason I don't recommend playing a standard droid straight from one of the books.

It is fine to play a "standard" droid but I really suggest you use one of the other creation methods when it comes to actually creating and playing the droid.

If you're looking at droids in the SGtD most of the "playable" droids have a bit that tells you how to create them.  That TC-SC droid looks like it would be very easy to do as a custom 4th-degree droid starting in Scoundrel.  The only thing you aren't going to easily get is the 20,000 credit holographic disguise but if allowed to play a "by the book" droid does that mean every organic character should also get advanced equipment for free?

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:34PM #8
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Hm... Interesting.

It says "The final cost of your droid, including any neccessary adjustments for a processor or adding a level in a heroic class, cannot exceed 5,000 credits."

One could interpret that as the cost ONLY including those things, however that would mean almost every droid could be played as a hero.  So it seems like you are right.  Then again, it would also mean that WotC would be wrong A LOT about what is and isn't a playable droid.  And it could also be argued that if you are correct then there is no need for them to put whether or not the droid is playable becsuse you should be able to figure that out yourself, which implies that the two (droid playabilty and cost) are unrelated.  So now I'm having a serious internal debate... My brain is so divided it feels like I'm a Cerean...

EDIT:  your last comment is also thought-provoking....

By the way, a TC-SC without the holo projector would just feel wrong.  It would also be near pointless as a droid because it can't perform its primary function.  As a character though it would be just fine, thanks   Maybe the projector broke...
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 9:15PM #9
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If you use the SGtD pricing scheme the 5000 credit "total cost" could be a bit low when a casual pass through the book didn't turn up any "playable" droids under that rule although if starting class credits are counted a few may come close.  It is one of those areas where SAGA isn't all that great

There are some stock/standard droids that should be perfectly playable as a PC by falling into the not too strong or too weak and having equipment appropriate to a PC of that level.  While there are some that meet those criteria there are many that don't although they provide a good concept for PC droid heroes.  I feel that using a droid "species" (either a custom "species" or chassis from SGtD) will generally put all the PCs on a similiar level.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 3:00PM #10
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You're right, what droids did you have in mind?
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