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1 year ago  ::  May 14, 2012 - 5:30PM #1
enabrantain
Date Joined: Nov 9, 2007
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It's beena while since we've seen one of these, figured we could use it. The titles set a little bit of a mood for that set, but don't overly dominate it. I'm still playing around with another set and might have enough left to do one more after that. But I know there's only so much of this we can all read through anyways.


Set VII
“Run Silent”

Allies

USA

*R USS South Dakota (BB) Big Mammy sister
R USS Texas (BB) New York Class
*R USS Independence (CVL) USS Princeton sister
*U PBJ B-25 (AC) Mitchell reprint with ASW and torps
*U USS Juneau (CL) Tribute ship, ASW cruiser
C USS Dale (DD) Farragut Class DD, subject of “Tales from a Tin Can”
*C USS Maury (DD) USS Bagley reprint as Gridley Class
*C SBD-2 Dauntless (AC) early war scout bomber variant

United Kingdom

*R HMS Malaya (BB) HMS Warspite reprint
*R HMS Hood (BB) Revamped card, hero ship re-issue
R HMS Roberts (CA) Monitor with 2x15inch guns
R HMS Implacable (CV) Late war fleet carrier, strong build
U Avro Lancaster (AC) Tall Boy bombs for Tirpitz
*C HMS Glowworm (DD) Tough little ship…
C HMS Upholder (SS) U-Class, amazing war record
C Supermarine Seafire (AC) Legendary carrier fighter

France

R Paris (BB)
U Emile Bertin (CL) Minelayer and Flotilla Leader SAs
*C Meduse (SS) Vichy French reprint of Casabianca w/ submerged shot

Poland

C Krokowiak (DD) Hunt Class Type 2 DD

Axis

Japan

*R Mutsu (BB) Nagato Reprint
R Shinano (CVL) Yamato Class Carrier
R Hiryu (CV) Much Anticipated
*R Kinugasa (CA) Aoba sister
*U Kitakami (CL) Oi sister with Torpedo Swarm SA
C Fubuki (DD) Large class
*C Tachibana (DD) Matsu Reprint
*C D3A1 “Val” (AC) w/ Armor Piercing Bomb SA and/or Battleship Killer SA (Pearl Harbor)

Germany

*R Scharnhorst (BB) Hero ship re-issue
R P-Class Cruiser (CA) Plan Z heavy cruiser
U BV-138 (AC) German flying boat aka the “Flying Cog”
*C E-Boat (MTB) S-Boat reprint, probably on Casabianca mold
C U-9 (SS) Type II U-boat
 
Italy

*R Conti di Cavour (BB)
*U SM.79 ‘Gobbo Maledetto’ aka Damned Hunchback (AC) Variant
C Strale (DD) Dardo Class
*C Perla (SS) Ambra reprint

Neutral

Spain

R Canarias (CA) Modern heavy cruiser
U “Almirante Cervera” (CL) 3 in class
C Ceuta (DD) Marasti Class, can be reprinted for Romania




Set VIII

“Rising Sun”

USA

R USS Mississippi (BB) New Mexico Class
*R USS Maryland (BB) USS West Virginia sister, Colorado Class
R USS Ranger (CV) Early US carrier, fought in Med/Atl theaters
*R USS New Orleans (CA) USS San Francisco reprint
U USS St. Louis (CL) Lead of Class
C USS Conygham (DD) 14 battle stars, Mahan Class
*C USS Robert H. Smith (DD) Minelaying subclass of AMS Class
*C F6F-3 Hellcat (AC) Fighter-Bomber reprint

UK

R HMS Vanguard (BB) Completed at end of war last BB in history to be completed
*R HMS Renown (BB) HMS Repulse reprint
R RMS Queen Mary (AUX) Massive Ocean Liner turned Troopship, 2 in class
*R HMS Ark Royal (CV) Hero ship re-issue with new SA
*U RAAF Beaufighter Mk IC (AC) Australian Beaufighter
*U HMS Dunedin (CL) D-Class reprint of ORP Dragon
C HMAS Vampire (DD) WWI V&W Class, part of the “Scrap Iron Flotilla”
*C HMCS St. Croix (DD) Canadian Clemson Class

Dutch

U Java (CL) 2 in class ASW cruiser
C Abraham Crijnssen (AUX) Jam van Amstel Class minesweeper
C O-19 (SS) Minelaying sub

Russia
 
*R Sevastopol (BB) Oct. Rev. sister

Japan

R Hyuga (BB) 1942 layout as full battleship
R Furutaka (CA) excellent class
*R Hiyo (CVL) Junyo sister
*R Akagi (CV)
*U G4M2e “Betty” (AC) Variant w/ Ohka suicide rocket
U Katori (CL) Lead of class
C Shimushu (DD) Minesweeper escort
*C Yugumo (DD) Lead of Class, reprint of Yukikaze
C “Type A” Midget Sub (SS) Probably two on a round clear plastic base
C B7A “Grace” (AC) Powerful late-war Hybrid bomber


Germany

*R Schlesien (BB) AA refit, Guard Ship SA
*U Focke-Wulf Fw200 (AC) Fw200 Kondor, with a K ;-), reprint w/ Minelaying SA
C Bernd von Armin (DD) 1934A Class
*C Bf-109E (AC) Fighter-Bomber variant, should be on same mold as Folgore


Italy

*R Pola (CA) Cruiser Leader SA
U Ramb II (AUX) Auxiliary Cruiser and commerce raider, seized by Japanese port
*C Elite C.202 Folgore (AC) Folgore reprint

Installation

R Airbase (INST) 4 cap, allows patrol bombers to rearm, vulnerable to ships and aircraft



Set IX

“Continuation War”

USA

R USS Pennsylvania (BB) Late war refit that made her unique
R USS Portland (CA) stationary turrets to help tell apart from Northampton Class
*R USS Ticonderoga (CV) Essex Class variant
*U USS Philadelphia (CL) ASW scout plane SA
C USS Atherton (DD) Cannon Class DD still in active fleet service
*C TBM Avenger (AC) Avenger variant

UK

*R HMS Ramillies (BB) Active war career despite her age
*R HMS Suffolk (CA) Uniquely Tough, Ability to bombard aircraft based in island/coastal sectors
R HMS Unicorn (CVL) Replenish Aircraft SA
U HMS Enterprise (CL) Emerald Class ship with legendary name
*C HMS Kelly (DD) K Class reprint of HMS Javelin
C HMS Spearfish (SS) Early war sub, best line in the morbid little  rhyme “Twelve Little S-Boats”
*C Barracuda Mk. III (AC) ASW variant

France

*R Richelieu (BB) Hero-ship reissue, 1943 US refit
C Late 298 (AC) Versatile seaplane bomber

Russia

R Krondstadt (BB) Fantasy Battlecruiser
*U Murmansk (CL) USS Richmond Reprint
U A-20 Havoc (AC) Range 1 attack from Bouncing Betty SA
C Leningrad  (DD) Large destroyer class
*C Torpedo Cutter (MTB) PT Boat reprint

Japan

*R Hiei (BB) Kongo sister
R Unryu (CV) Late war fleet carrier meant for mass production, 3 completed
R Asama Maru (AUX) Japanese cruise liner turned troopship, 2 in class
U Tokiwa (AUX) Armored cruiser converted to a minelayer w/ remaining 2x8inch gun turret
C Shin’yo Suicide Boat (MTB)
*C “Judy” Kamikaze (AC) D4Y “Judy” reprint

Germany

*R Tirpitz (BB) Hero-ship reissue
*R Deutschland (CA) Landing SA
U Niobe (CL) AA cruiser, refit of captured Dutch cruiser, sent to reinforce Finland, sunk by Russians
C Ar-196A-1 (AC) Seaplane bomber and recon


Italy

R UP-41 (BB) Fantasy Battleship
*U Duca Degli Abbruzzi (CL) Giuseppe Garibaldi sister
C Folgore (DD) Lead of Class
*C MAS Boat (MTB) revised ‘Motor Torpedo Boat’

Finland

*U Ilmarinen (CL) Vainomoinen Sister
C VMV Patrol Boat (DD) Large Class
*C Vetehinen (SS) U-9 Reprint, ability to Ram other subs

Turkey

R Yavuz Sultan Selim (BB) WWI Ex-German Battlecruiser
*C Adatepe (DD) Folgore Class variant




Set X

“Fleet Command”

USA

*R USS Wisconsin (BB) “Green Gunners” SA, only 6’s count when crippled
*R USS Oklahoma (BB) Pearl Harbor BB
R USS Midway (CV) Completed right at the end of the war
U USS Langley (AUX) Seaplane carrier
C USS Morris (DD) Sims Class, 15 Battle Stars
*C USS Gato (SS) USS Barb Reprint, strong war record
*C FM-2 Wildcat (AC) Fighter-bomber

UK

*R HMS Duke of York (BB) KVG Class
*R HMS Indomitable (CV) Illustrious class variant, able to carry more aircraft
*U HMAS Perth (CL) tribute ship
C HMS Legion (DD) L&M Class
C RAAF Vultee Vengeance (AC) Australian
*C Hurricane Mk. I (AC) 1939 land-based fighter, can base in coastal sectors


Greece

R Kilkis (BB) Guard Ship, Blitzed  by German bombers while trying to get underway
U Elli (CL) Minelaying cruiser
*C Spetsai (DD) Dardo Class reprint

France

R Duquesne (CA) 2 in class
R Joffrey (CVL) Fantasy carrier with Wildcat Operations or same SA as Diximude
*U Diximude (CVE) Casabianca Class carrier handed over to French in early 1945, SA to base USN carrier aircraft
C Mogador (DD) Large destroyer

Japan

R A-150 (BB) Super Yamato Battleship
*R Yamashiro (BB) Revised stats to match Fuso /w new SA
R Chiyoda (CVL) Seaplane Tender refit into light carrier
U P1Y “Frances” (AC) successor to Betty
*U Zuiho (CVE) Shoho sister with Fighter Cover 5 and Expert Torpedoes
C Momi (DD) Lead of class
C I-400 (SS) aircraft carrying sub
*C A6M3 “Hamp” (AC) Fighter-bomber variant of Zeke

Germany

R Wilhelm Gustloff (AUX) Ocean Liner turned Troop Transport, Ex-hospital ship when sunk by S-13
*R Peter Strasser (CVL) Barely started sistership of Graf Zeppelin, Expert Torpedoes
U Emden (CL) landing SA
C MFP (AUX) Landing ships also used as escorts
*C *C U-864 (SS) Type IX sub, Cargo SA, attempted to deliver mercury cargo and technology to Japan
*C Ju-87C Stuka (AC) Naval variant

Italy

*R Impero (BB) Fourth  unfinished Litorio Class BB, speculatively completed w/ German lend-lead tech
*R Bolzano (CA) Re-Issue
*U Bartolommeo Colleoni (CL) Minelayer sister of Giovani
C Borea (DD) Turbine Class

Romania

*C Marasti (DD) Ceuta Reprint

Neutral

Installations

R Fortress (Inst)

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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 11:30PM #2
AH_Richter_von_Manthofen
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2005
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Of course everybody has a better list than yours - but thats only personal taste.

I would love to see any of those sets and certainly would buy into them.

One thing I certainly would like to see is an Edsall reprint for a "ship for bases" transfer to UK
...,... and Rock'n Roll - but Minis are fun too...
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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 9:10AM #3
AH_Grenzewolf
Date Joined: Mar 2, 2006
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Germany still could use more Raiders and Aux ships.  I'm able to field a reasonable size Convoy these days.   Scenario potntial is good aswell as some excellent solo options.

GW
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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 7:42PM #4
enabrantain
Date Joined: Nov 9, 2007
Posts: 1,412

I agree with both of you, these sets, even after all they give, are still missing ALOT. Thinking about redoing them in the form of 60 units, 20 of each rarity, with would be sold in larger boosters, 1 rare, 2 uncommons and 4 commons.  But I've been avoiding this because it's all hypothetical and I should be focusing my energy into something else... so I'll probably have those lists ready next week. Wink

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 5:22AM #5
DarthVader_Unleashed
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2008
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Foggia Airfield complex
Medium shore battery
Dry Dock

Texas
South Dakota
Ranger
Nautilus
Buffalo USN
B-17
England
Gleaves

Hiryu
Shinano
Mutsu
Zuiho
Elite Val Bomber (ace SA: reroll bomb attack once per game)
Nagara
Fubuki 

Deutchland
BF 110
HE 111
DO 217
BV 138
Niobe
Emden
Pinguin

Vanguard
Queen Elizabeth
Indefatigable
HMS Roberts
Seafire
Mosquito
Hunt class destroyer
Upholder
Vampire (HMAS)
KittyHawk (Austalia)

Joffre
Surcouf
Submerged shot sub
Jean d'arc
commandante teste
Late 298
Breguet 810 

Conti di cavour
Veltro
CR42
Lupa
Ramb 2
foca
Pola

Marat
Yak Fighter
Tallinn
Leningrad DD
Maxim Gorky
MTB
K-21
Krasny Partizan


Norge
Java




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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:25PM #6
Pendragon68
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2011
Posts: 34
lovely sets enabrantain,

each of them would be appealing to me and a drain to my wallet i love the notion of the smaller countries and the more obscure units.

Keep up the good work



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1 year ago  ::  May 21, 2012 - 1:15PM #7
Straswa
Date Joined: Jun 10, 2010
Posts: 23
Nice lists! I'd buy!

I myself want to see more early war units, many of which were covered above.  


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