Not voting (6) - azuro_arcanis, razorborne, FirstTurnKill, PeregrineV, TheOneWhoCallCrow, Rubik
With 7 votes, FirstTurnKill is lynched.
The guards seem mildly amused. Day has just dawned and they're asking what everyone wants for breakfast. More than half of you state that you want a FirstTurnKill sandwich.
Shrugging indifferently, the guards acquiesce and escort FTK off for a mind wipe.
The rest of the day passes quickly, almost as if by magic, and before you know it, it's time for bed. You all go to bed sleeping easier, knowing that FTK, aka Mafia aligned vanilla goon is off for a mindwipe.
It is now Night 5.
Deadline for night actions is Saturday the 16th at 10am Pacific time.
Yet another glorious day dawns on all of you... well, all but poor FTK. It seems you meanies killed him permanently.
The guards are wheeling someone back into the room though. It seems that Zokorad, who you all previously knew as Mumbling Man, Freaking Nutjob (Town aligned "Charismatic") has been mindwiped in the night. He's only half the man he used to be, but that's more than some of you can say.
Please welcome him back into the group.
It is now Day 6. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to force an early lynch.
Deadline for Day 6 is Thursday the 28th at 10am Pacific time.
Yet another glorious day dawns on all of you... well, all but poor FTK. It seems you meanies killed him permanently.The guards are wheeling someone back into the room though. It seems that Zokorad, who you all previously knew as Mumbling Man, Freakin
Player list: 1) azuro_arcanis -- TOWN: all first-life Scum are dead. 2) Tevish_Szat -- TOWN: Investigated 3) Zokorad -- Possible SECOND Scum: If no scum existed before he got a new life, game would have ended. 5) Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy -- TOWN: all first-life Scum are dead. 6) Rubik -- TOWN: all first-life Scum are dead. 8) PeregrineV -- Possible Scum: Got a new life since last mafia death 9) Freddeh -- TOWN: Investigated 10) razorborne -- Probable Town: Scum report no new member at this time 11) TheOneWhoCallCrow -- TOWN: all first-life Scum are dead. 13) vrcngtrx69 -- Unlikely Scum: Scum of this era accounted for. 14) Silly_Dragons -- Possible Scum: Flipped at an awkward point in chronology. 15) Monoredburn -- TOWN: all first-life Scum are dead.
It is my opinion that we should lynch Silly, VRC, or PV today. I'm not so much for a Silly wagon because of how he drove FTK's wagon. Based on what we know of mechanics and flips, I find PV a better lynch that VRC.
VOTE: PV
First-Life Scum Death Count: 3 mafia, 1 SK Second-Life Scum Death Count: 2 mafia
There might be 1 more mafia in the setup, or there could be two or one and a neutral-hostile. The possibility of just one makes Zoko a less tempting lynch, considering we KNOW he couldn't have been the lone scum as of the end of yesterday.
Player list:1) azuro_arcanis -- TOWN: all first-life Scum are dead.2) Tevish_Szat -- TOWN: Investigated3) Zokorad -- Possible SECOND Scum: If no scum existed before he got a new life, game would have ended.5) Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy -- TOWN: all firs
I agree that there is likely 1 mafia left in the game. We kill PV then vrc. If you really want, you can lynch me after PV if you don't trust me, but I'm town. Trust me.
VOTE PVWE'RE KILLING PEOPLE.I agree that there is likely 1 mafia left in the game. We kill PV then vrc. If you really want, you can lynch me after PV if you don't trust me, but I'm town. Trust me.
There is still a chance for a 1st life mafia, if and only if they did not post at all. Also FFP did claim he accidentally claimed Town. He may be self or mafia. He denied being Big G.
FTK when he became mafia, posted anonymously as Hypolita. I new it was someone else as I was hypolita.
PV seems to be the most likely candidate as mafia.
Razor, Silly, Myself are next if PV flips town.
If mafia still exists after PV flips mafia, most likely it will be Zoko.
Vote: PV
There is still a chance for a 1st life mafia, if and only if they did not post at all. Also FFP did claim he accidentally claimed Town. He may be self or mafia. He denied being Big G.FTK when he became mafia, posted anonymously as Hypolita. I new
Also, in my opinion this game is pretty much solved at this point.
it normally would be but remember that current confirmed town may die and come back as scum. we could just run a chain-lynch if we want (I'm happy with PV-SD-VRC, which should almost definitely find the remaining scum) but in the mean time we could lose extra town to the scum, which complicates math. still, though, it's incredibly likely that one of those three is scum, so if we want to just run through there until we find it that's cool. I'd like to hear from PV before we begin though.
it normally would be but remember that current confirmed town may die and come back as scum. we could just run a chain-lynch if we want (I'm happy with PV-SD-VRC, which should almost definitely find the remaining scum) but in the mean time we could l
Also, in my opinion this game is pretty much solved at this point.
it normally would be but remember that current confirmed town may die and come back as scum. we could just run a chain-lynch if we want (I'm happy with PV-SD-VRC, which should almost definitely find the remaining scum) but in the mean time we could lose extra town to the scum, which complicates math. still, though, it's incredibly likely that one of those three is scum, so if we want to just run through there until we find it that's cool. I'd like to hear from PV before we begin though.
There is definitely not more than two possible scum roles remaining in the game.
it normally would be but remember that current confirmed town may die and come back as scum. we could just run a chain-lynch if we want (I'm happy with PV-SD-VRC, which should almost definitely find the remaining scum) but in the mean time we could l
FFP has a no-lie policy. The only exception is that he MAY lie about being asked his alignment point-blank. However, he still usually evades telling his alignment rather than lying about it. "Accidentally claiming town" is simply claiming town contrary to his normal habits.
FFP has a no-lie policy. The only exception is that he MAY lie about being asked his alignment point-blank. However, he still usually evades telling his alignment rather than lying about it. "Accidentally claiming town" is simply claiming town con
both of you don't really have an idea which of my posts was the "accidential claim town" post, do you? because I didn't accidently post "I'm town-aligned".
both of you don't really have an idea which of my posts was the "accidential claim town" post, do you? because I didn't accidently post "I'm town-aligned".
btw, I accidently kinda claimed town this game. I say it now, because if I wait until I get pressure, it would look bad and you would probably not believe me anymore. as this is such an unusual game, I'm fine with it though.
btw, I accidently kinda claimed town this game. I say it now, because if I wait until I get pressure, it would look bad and you would probably not believe me anymore. as this is such an unusual game, I'm fine with it though.
You are right you didnt say "Town aligned"
you don't get it, either. this is not the post that I'm talking about. this post is the post I made AFTER I had accidently claimed town.
You are right you didnt say "Town aligned"[/quote]you don't get it, either. this is not the post that I'm talking about. this post is the post I made AFTER I had accidently claimed town.
if I were mafia, I'd out my team right now. then, when all of them would have been lynched/killed, I'd get myself lynched and hopefully (odds are good) rejoin as a townie and win
if I were mafia, I'd out my team right now. then, when all of them would have been lynched/killed, I'd get myself lynched and hopefully (odds are good) rejoin as a townie and win
is this the one you're talking about?
we have a winner. yes, it is.
is this the one you're talking about?:duel: [/quote]we have a winner.yes, it is.
There is still a chance for a 1st life mafia, if and only if they did not post at all. Also FFP did claim he accidentally claimed Town. He may be self or mafia. He denied being Big G.
FTK when he became mafia, posted anonymously as Hypolita. I new it was someone else as I was hypolita.
PV seems to be the most likely candidate as mafia.
Razor, Silly, Myself are next if PV flips town.
If mafia still exists after PV flips mafia, most likely it will be Zoko.
Also, in my opinion this game is pretty much solved at this point.
it normally would be but remember that current confirmed town may die and come back as scum. we could just run a chain-lynch if we want (I'm happy with PV-SD-VRC, which should almost definitely find the remaining scum) but in the mean time we could lose extra town to the scum, which complicates math. still, though, it's incredibly likely that one of those three is scum, so if we want to just run through there until we find it that's cool. I'd like to hear from PV before we begin though.
Anything in particular? We're actually following my plan despite everyone fighting it, so it calls for everyone who died once to die again (minus confirmed).
I was Big G.it normally would be but remember that current confirmed town may die and come back as scum. we could just run a chain-lynch if we want (I'm happy with PV-SD-VRC, which should almost definitely find the remaining scum) but in the mean tim
anything you can tell us about events in the mafia clubhouse between VRC's death and your own would be excellent.
Night 3? Hypolita posted and said I should have posted as Hypolita. I sent in the NK on Arioch (his vote-cop power was too good), and claimed to have investigated myself and found myself Vanilla. That's pretty much it, since I was lynched the next day..
anything you can tell us about events in the mafia clubhouse between VRC's death and your own would be excellent.:duel: [/quote]Night 3?Hypolita posted and said I should have posted as Hypolita.I sent in the NK on Arioch (his vote-cop power was too g
You can want all you want, but I'm NOT going to vote Peregrine. My vote has a tendency to instakill people. Just look what happened to Tevish when I decided he needed to die!
You can want all you want, but I'm NOT going to vote Peregrine. My vote has a tendency to instakill people. Just look what happened to Tevish when I decided he needed to die! :-P
I, also, won't be voting, because I'm not in the game.
((Ahlyis, actually interested in trying to run a dual-life game in RL for a group I'm in, and was curious if you could possibly PM me with how you would handle mafia in a dual-life game in RL. My current idea is not to let them know who other Mafia are, simply because if they did, gamebreaks. But... kinda against the spirit of the game.))
I, also, won't be voting, because I'm not in the game.((Ahlyis, actually interested in trying to run a dual-life game in RL for a group I'm in, and was curious if you could possibly PM me with how you would handle mafia in a dual-life game in RL. My
You can want all you want, but I'm NOT going to vote Peregrine. My vote has a tendency to instakill people. Just look what happened to Tevish when I decided he needed to die!
If you really want, you can lynch me after PV if you don't trust me, but I'm town. Trust me.
Can't believe you people are buying the "trust me" card...
Too bad, you're dead.
Go cry about it.
It's twilight, so no, I'm still alive.
Can't believe you people are buying the "trust me" card...:noway: [/quote]Too bad, you're dead.Go cry about it.[/quote]It's twilight, so no, I'm still alive.
Not voting (3) - azuro_arcanis, TheOneWhoCallCrow, Rubik
With 7 votes, PeregrineV is lynched.
The guards are happy that at least we got through breakfast before the day's victim was chosen. Indifferent to his pleas, the guards escort PeregrineV, aka Whisper of Wind, Invisible Man (Mafia aligned limited ninja) off for a mindwipe.
Wait Silly_Dragons calls. He's the last bad guy. Let us go. We're all good people here. We've done what you asked of us. I personally ensured all the bad guts are gone. LET US GO!
The head guard just stops and stares at Silly for a moment. Then he doubles over in hysterical laughter. After a few moments he gathers his composure back together and continues to escort PeregrineV out of the ward for his mindwipe. Almost casually the group hears a final comment as the guards leave the ward... "Think they know everything. The poor fools."
It is now Night 6.
Deadline for night actions is Sunday the 24th at 10am Pacific time.
I can post whatever I want at night but can only post votes and explanations at day. If the mafia does not kill a 1st liferr, the mafia is stupid btw.
I am Owl Man town aligned Nocturnal Poster. I can post whatever I want at night but can only post votes and explanations at day. If the mafia does not kill a 1st liferr, the mafia is stupid btw.
Well. This is disappointing. SEVERLY disappointing.
Zokorad is being Modkilled for posting at night.
---Anger filled diatribe redacted.---
Town wins.
Here's the link to the master Mod thread which contains links to almost everything about the game. The only thing missing is the specific text of each role: www.quicktopic.com/48/H/dZbHZBSzn4r
I can post the full role info once I get in to work on Monday.
As for MVP awards, I'm only going to give out 1. Tevish_Szat earns the second life Town MVP. His extensive analysis when coming back from first life Mafia is what got Town started on the winning path. His play throughout his Town life was strong.
I'd like to give Vrcngtrx69 the first life Mafia MVP. Some of his play there was simply brilliant. But most of it was forced on him thanks to his terrible play before that point. So it's kind of a wash and he only gets an honorable mention.
---Anger filled diatribe redacted.---
Anyway, congrats to the Town. Once Tevish came out and handed you guys so much information, Mafia were in pretty dire straits, but kudos for you guys on not letting up and continuing to lynch one Mafia after another. Town deserved this win and most likely would have gotten it even if Zoko hadn't forced the issue.
EDIT: Certain, not particularly game relevant, comments were deleted.
Well. This is disappointing. SEVERLY disappointing.Zokorad is being Modkilled for posting at night.---Anger filled diatribe redacted.---Town wins.Here's the link to the master Mod thread which contains links to almost everything about the game. The o
Well. This is disappointing. SEVERLY disappointing.
Zokorad is being Modkilled for posting at night.
I would like to propose that Zokorad be BANNED from playing in games on Px2. He has REPEATEDLY refused to follow the rules in pretty much EVERY game I have seen him play in.
Town wins.
Here's the link to the master Mod thread which contains links to almost everything about the game. The only thing missing is the specific text of each role: www.quicktopic.com/48/H/dZbHZBSzn4r
I can post the full role info once I get in to work on Monday.
As for MVP awards, I'm only going to give out 1. Tevish_Szat earns the second life Town MVP. His extensive analysis when coming back from first life Mafia is what got Town started on the winning path. His play throughout his Town life was strong.
I'd like to give Vrcngtrx69 the first life Mafia MVP. Some of his play there was simply brilliant. But most of it was forced on him thanks to his terrible play before that point. So it's kind of a wash and he only gets an honorable mention.
I want to urge again that Zokorad be BANNED from playing in further games here at Px2. I don't give a damn how hopeless you think your team's cause is, that's NO EXCUSE for that type of behavior. And this is far from the first time he's done it. I see a huge difference between why Tevish got modkilled and Zoko did. Zoko willfully ignored the rules and commited a well known modkillable offense, one he's been warned multiple times in the past about. Tevish accidentally revealed hidden game info outside the thread. there was nothing intentional about it.
If you cannot play by the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to play. that's my feelings on it anyway.
Anyway, congrats to the Town. Once Tevish came out and handed you guys so much information, Mafia were in pretty dire straits, but kudos for you guys on not letting up and continuing to lynch one Mafia after another. Town deserved this win and most likely would have gotten it even if Zoko hadn't forced the issue.
Unfortunately I make accidental posts a lot because I have a special method I placed into my computer when I use post with delay that occasionally does not work. The funtion allows me to click a timer of days and then DELAY POST and the post is automatically made after that amount of days. This time, I accidentally clicked immediate post which was an unhacked option which gave me the unfortunate choice beetween committing 1 of 2 offenses. I have pretty much learned just now that the function should not be used in Mafia games but by the time I learned it was too broken to be used in Mafia games it had broken itself in 2 games. I do have a button for cancel delayed post. The main purpose was to place my cards in ymtc later so I can step up in the spoilers withs delays in them. However I thought I might use this to get my Night time posts together to set them out just as day starts. NOw I promise in these group forum I will stop using this function thjat has a chance of breaking. It seems to be glitched lately.
Unfortunately I make accidental posts a lot because I have a special method I placed into my computer when I use post with delay that occasionally does not work. The funtion allows me to click a timer of days and then DELAY POST and the post is autom
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Looking through to qt labrynth, I managed to find info that Tevish Szat posted with his Shizophrenia name in the Twilight Zone qt giving away a lot of hints
Also, Ahl, you should totally take up your case with whoever the current GMs are. I think Jay and Fredface? Instead of posting your complains in the game thread like you did now.
If they think it's a big issue, then they will decide. Or maybe they'll call a vote in the general forum or something. I think that was the plan PK had back when he ran thangs.
But you shouldn't call people out in the gamethread like that.
Also, Ahl, you should totally take up your case with whoever the current GMs are. I think Jay and Fredface? Instead of posting your complains in the game thread like you did now.If they think it's a big issue, then they will decide. Or maybe they'll
nice game all. congrats to tevish for mvp. Good jop SD on an excellent watch on me. If you hadnt there would have been several more townies dead and a lot more mayhem caused :P Ahl for some reason all my best ideas come when im under alot of game pressure but thanx for the fun game.
nice game all. congrats to tevish for mvp. Good jop SD on an excellent watch on me. If you hadnt there would have been several more townies dead and a lot more mayhem caused :P Ahl for some reason all my best ideas come when im under alot of game
So uh, what did tevish do to get killed in the first place?
Tevish accidentally used his alternate QT account which he was using as Mafia here, to create threads and posts for his Twilight Zone Mafia game. Only I apparently noticed that the Mafia QT was created by his alt, but when he posted to the thread itself using the alt, he tried to delete the post. Unfortuantely for him, people subscribed to the thread had already received a copy via email.
Eventually someone put 2 and 2 together and deduced that Tevish must be Mafia in Schizo, but they weren't sure what to do about it since they got the info through outside the game means. Rather than put the onus on them to decide how to handle the info, I simply killed Tevish. I had already discussed it with Tevish earlier, so he knew that if his slips caused a problem, he was likely to get modkilled.
Tevish accidentally used his alternate QT account which he was using as Mafia here, to create threads and posts for his Twilight Zone Mafia game. Only I apparently noticed that the Mafia QT was created by his alt, but when he posted to the thread its
For anyone willing to at least look through the Mod Notes thread (it's only 4 posts long), I'd appreciate any feedback on the various comments I made as the game went on. You don't need to follow the links to all the other threads if you don't want, but feedback on teh info in the main Mod thread would be nice.
Happy to have gotten to run it finally.For anyone willing to at least look through the Mod Notes thread (it's only 4 posts long), I'd appreciate any feedback on the various comments I made as the game went on. You don't need to follow the links to al
I don't know if I really did anything exceptional, but it was interesting that the game fell apart for scum at the first scum death, to a degree such that it seemed comical at times, especially when we went with the fastest speedlynch I have ever seen.
I think, largely, it's because we decided to post with 'pen names' rather than as anon. That rather directly led to my demise, and created a stronger analysis of mafia-aligned players later. The overall system for keeping the mafia from totally crumbling was sound, the mafia just didn't use it well.
I'm also glad I got a chance to use my "Fake a meme posting restriction" scheme. Of course, I found it's next to impossible to keep making posts under such a restriction... harder than I thought, by a longshot. Not going to see a repeat performance of that from me.
An enjoyable and good game all around!
I don't know if I really did anything exceptional, but it was interesting that the game fell apart for scum at the first scum death, to a degree such that it seemed comical at times, especially when we went with the fastest speedlynch I have ever see
I think this game was too tilted toward town. The mafia's inability to effectively coordinate took away a lot of their power, and on top of that the massive amount of info gained by a scum flip meant that as soon as one of them died they were basically screwed, and that was much harder than normal to avoid.
I think this game was too tilted toward town. The mafia's inability to effectively coordinate took away a lot of their power, and on top of that the massive amount of info gained by a scum flip meant that as soon as one of them died they were basical
I think this game was too tilted toward town. The mafia's inability to effectively coordinate took away a lot of their power, and on top of that the massive amount of info gained by a scum flip meant that as soon as one of them died they were basically screwed, and that was much harder than normal to avoid.
It would have been fine if all of the preventative measures the mafia eventually implemented were there from the start and actually followed. But that would have taken an extreme amount of foresight.
It would have been fine if all of the preventative measures the mafia eventually implemented were there from the start and actually followed. But that would have taken an extreme amount of foresight.
I don't know if I really did anything exceptional, but it was interesting that the game fell apart for scum at the first scum death, to a degree such that it seemed comical at times, especially when we went with the fastest speedlynch I have ever seen.
I think, largely, it's because we decided to post with 'pen names' rather than as anon. That rather directly led to my demise, and created a stronger analysis of mafia-aligned players later. The overall system for keeping the mafia from totally crumbling was sound, the mafia just didn't use it well.
I'm also glad I got a chance to use my "Fake a meme posting restriction" scheme. Of course, I found it's next to impossible to keep making posts under such a restriction... harder than I thought, by a longshot. Not going to see a repeat performance of that from me.
An enjoyable and good game all around!
Your death and analysis made it easier for me to make a bogus claim. I should have skipped my night action but got greedy
Your death and analysis made it easier for me to make a bogus claim. I should have skipped my night action but got greedy
Grats on MVP Tevish! I liked the memes, if only for bringing some chuckles to the thread.
I do think that in a game like this, anonymous posting of mafia should be required up front, rather than suggested. It's one thing to have to extract post timing and writing analyses from players all talking with the same name -- it's just a much easier thing to directly associate disparate names. I feel like once any mafia died (it just happened to be Tevish), the game would go downhill sharply for them. Either that, or at least a larger amount of power roles for mafia, as I mentioned in the "dead players" QT.
Grats on MVP Tevish! I liked the memes, if only for bringing some chuckles to the thread.I do think that in a game like this, anonymous posting of mafia should be required up front, rather than suggested. It's one thing to have to extract post timi
I had trouble getting interested in this game. it usually helps if I have a cool role, but this one was kinda meh. I then decided to make the best out of it and after I had accidently claimed town, I thought it would be best if I remained an un-nightkillable townie, making it for the mafia that extra bit harder to win. also I got some fun out of my posting restriction. it is distressing though that people didn't even bother to read the few posts that I've made. my initial "town-claim" post didn't find attention by anyone and even my second post where I stated that I've claimed town earlier flew past the radar of almost everyone and nobody seemed to bother anyway.
I had trouble getting interested in this game. it usually helps if I have a cool role, but this one was kinda meh. I then decided to make the best out of it and after I had accidently claimed town, I thought it would be best if I remained an un-night
I had trouble getting interested in this game. it usually helps if I have a cool role, but this one was kinda meh. I then decided to make the best out of it and after I had accidently claimed town, I thought it would be best if I remained an un-nightkillable townie, making it for the mafia that extra bit harder to win. also I got some fun out of my posting restriction. it is distressing though that people didn't even bother to read the few posts that I've made. my initial "town-claim" post didn't find attention by anyone and even my second post where I stated that I've claimed town earlier flew past the radar of almost everyone and nobody seemed to bother anyway.
Well, for what it's worth, I thought you were town. And it didn't really matter after a while because we killed all the first life mafia, so everyone who hadn't died yet was confirmed town.
Well, for what it's worth, I thought you were town. And it didn't really matter after a while because we killed all the first life mafia, so everyone who hadn't died yet was confirmed town.
I think this game was too tilted toward town. The mafia's inability to effectively coordinate took away a lot of their power, and on top of that the massive amount of info gained by a scum flip meant that as soon as one of them died they were basically screwed, and that was much harder than normal to avoid.
It would have been fine if all of the preventative measures the mafia eventually implemented were there from the start and actually followed. But that would have taken an extreme amount of foresight.
even then, a lot of the mafia's strength comes from coordination. if you have to hide your identity from your fellow mafiates, you lose the ability to do that, to steer lynches away from your teammates, and so forth. even the trap-post thing would've given away the mafia's identities to each other if they hadn't abandoned ship when the current vote leader made it. if, say, I had made that post, then when Tevish died he could've easily identified everyone who suddenly started pushing for my lynch as scum. there's just no profitable way to use the mafia's numbers to help you when you need to hide behind a veil of secrecy. it just makes you into an SK collective.
It would have been fine if all of the preventative measures the mafia eventually implemented were there from the start and actually followed. But that would have taken an extreme amount of foresight.[/quote]even then, a lot of the mafia's strength co
8) PeregrineV (Lynched D4, died as Mafia. Lynched D6, died as Mafia. Awaiting third life.)
It was mainly to mess with metagamers similar to the 2 identical role pms and the some Citizen/Goons named and others not.
No, apperantly Razorborne had the 3rd Life and it was Town.[/quote]Just going by the Opening post.[/quote]It was mainly to mess with metagamers similar to the 2 identical role pms and the some Citizen/Goons named and others not.
Peregrine did not have a third life. Only razorborne did.
Razorborne's initial role, in retrospect, should have been Self aligned that wins with Town instead of straight Town aligned. The purpose of making him Town instead of Self was to avoid the very small chance that all power roles were gone by the time he died and the next life on the list was the no second life slot. If he had been pure Self, he would lose instantly just for trying to follow his role, which was why I made him Town. But making him Town technically forced him to act against his alignment. Self aligned, but wins with Town would've been just plain better all around.
Peregrine did not have a third life. Only razorborne did.Razorborne's initial role, in retrospect, should have been Self aligned that wins with Town instead of straight Town aligned. The purpose of making him Town instead of Self was to avoid the ver
So I'm the only one that died as mafia and lost as mafia?
PDR and Zoko also walk away with Losses if I understand correctly, seeing as their final alignment was a losing alignment.
You are, however, the only first life mafia to lose as mafia.
PDR and Zoko also walk away with Losses if I understand correctly, seeing as their final alignment was a losing alignment.You are, however, the only first life mafia to lose as mafia.
So I'm the only one that died as mafia and lost as mafia?
PDR and Zoko also walk away with Losses if I understand correctly, seeing as their final alignment was a losing alignment.
You are, however, the only first life mafia to lose as mafia.
Aww shucks.
PDR and Zoko also walk away with Losses if I understand correctly, seeing as their final alignment was a losing alignment.You are, however, the only first life mafia to lose as mafia.[/quote]Aww shucks.
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.
Luckily, we didn't go there.
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.Luckily, we didn't go there.
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.
Luckily, we didn't go there.
I told you vrc was mole.
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.Luckily, we didn't go there.[/quote]I told you vrc was
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.
Luckily, we didn't go there.
I also want to mention something that someone said during this game which should probably be addressed.
It's related to the use of Google to locate QTs that are a primary communications tool in Mafia games.
It's pretty common practice to use the QuickTopic website to facilitate the hidden communication of the scum team in a most efficient manner.
However, QTs are on a publicly accessible website, and so is the data within them.
While there is no enforceable rule about trying to find the QT for a specific game, especially by user-name, it really does go beyond the metagame and ruins the spirit of the game.
The purpose of playing mafia is to challenge oneself, to either catch the mafia team, or fool the town.
Finding out Tevish is scum because I diligently searched the InterWeb and located his name and thus his teams QT is not novel, and definitely goes against the spirit of the mafia game.
It's not really possible to prevent players from doing so, but if you want to know that badly, it's best to contact the Game's Moderator directly and excuse yourself from the actual playing of the game. You will then be privy to all the setup and knowledge they care to share, but without ruining the game for the other players.
I'd like to hear thoughts and feedback on this from everyone, since I know anyone that has played often has already thought of this, but with the influx of new/new-old players, I'm curious what others think.
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.Luckily, we didn't go there.[/quote]I also want to men
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.
Luckily, we didn't go there.
I also want to mention something that someone said during this game which should probably be addressed.
It's related to the use of Google to locate QTs that are a primary communications tool in Mafia games.
It's pretty common practice to use the QuickTopic website to facilitate the hidden communication of the scum team in a most efficient manner.
However, QTs are on a publicly accessible website, and so is the data within them.
While there is no enforceable rule about trying to find the QT for a specific game, especially by user-name, it really does go beyond the metagame and ruins the spirit of the game.
The purpose of playing mafia is to challenge oneself, to either catch the mafia team, or fool the town.
Finding out Tevish is scum because I diligently searched the InterWeb and located his name and thus his teams QT is not novel, and definitely goes against the spirit of the mafia game.
It's not really possible to prevent players from doing so, but if you want to know that badly, it's best to contact the Game's Moderator directly and excuse yourself from the actual playing of the game. You will then be privy to all the setup and knowledge they care to share, but without ruining the game for the other players.
I'd like to hear thoughts and feedback on this from everyone, since I know anyone that has played often has already thought of this, but with the influx of new/new-old players, I'm curious what others think.
Not sure if I missed something somewhere, but who said they did this?
Totally agree though that it kind of ruins the game if someone is doing this...
to be fair, "Mole"'s presence made the second one seem like the right thing to do. If I'd thought about it more carefully, I probably could have used post timing on Mole to get towards the truth.Luckily, we didn't go there.[/quote]I also want to men
I also want to mention something that someone said during this game which should probably be addressed.
It's related to the use of Google to locate QTs that are a primary communications tool in Mafia games.
It's pretty common practice to use the QuickTopic website to facilitate the hidden communication of the scum team in a most efficient manner.
However, QTs are on a publicly accessible website, and so is the data within them.
While there is no enforceable rule about trying to find the QT for a specific game, especially by user-name, it really does go beyond the metagame and ruins the spirit of the game.
The purpose of playing mafia is to challenge oneself, to either catch the mafia team, or fool the town.
Finding out Tevish is scum because I diligently searched the InterWeb and located his name and thus his teams QT is not novel, and definitely goes against the spirit of the mafia game.
It's not really possible to prevent players from doing so, but if you want to know that badly, it's best to contact the Game's Moderator directly and excuse yourself from the actual playing of the game. You will then be privy to all the setup and knowledge they care to share, but without ruining the game for the other players.
I'd like to hear thoughts and feedback on this from everyone, since I know anyone that has played often has already thought of this, but with the influx of new/new-old players, I'm curious what others think.
This is not a problem. We've had this discussion before.
Search engines do not plug in every possible url extension for www.quicktopic.com an see which ones are valid pages. That would take an impossibly long time and is stupid and silly to do. Rather, they find results by crawling through web links. Thus, a private quicktopic thread will never find its way onto google until somebody posts a link to it in a place that is publically viewable. As long as the quicktopic link remains in a PM, then you won't be finding it, unless you happen to guess the randomly generated URL which is unlikely. Of course, there still is a problem if someone leaks the quicktopic thread somewhere publically viewable prematurely. But that's their own fault and then we ban them or give them a paddlin' or a stern talking to or something.
This is not a problem. We've had this discussion before.Search engines do not plug in every possible url extension for www.quicktopic.com an see which ones are valid pages. That would take an impossibly long time and is stupid and silly to do. Rather
I also want to mention something that someone said during this game which should probably be addressed.
It's related to the use of Google to locate QTs that are a primary communications tool in Mafia games.
It's pretty common practice to use the QuickTopic website to facilitate the hidden communication of the scum team in a most efficient manner.
However, QTs are on a publicly accessible website, and so is the data within them.
While there is no enforceable rule about trying to find the QT for a specific game, especially by user-name, it really does go beyond the metagame and ruins the spirit of the game.
The purpose of playing mafia is to challenge oneself, to either catch the mafia team, or fool the town.
Finding out Tevish is scum because I diligently searched the InterWeb and located his name and thus his teams QT is not novel, and definitely goes against the spirit of the mafia game.
It's not really possible to prevent players from doing so, but if you want to know that badly, it's best to contact the Game's Moderator directly and excuse yourself from the actual playing of the game. You will then be privy to all the setup and knowledge they care to share, but without ruining the game for the other players.
I'd like to hear thoughts and feedback on this from everyone, since I know anyone that has played often has already thought of this, but with the influx of new/new-old players, I'm curious what others think.
This is not a problem. We've had this discussion before.
Search engines do not plug in every possible url extension for www.quicktopic.com an see which ones are valid pages. That would take an impossibly long time and is stupid and silly to do. Rather, they find results by crawling through web links. Thus, a private quicktopic thread will never find its way onto google until somebody posts a link to it in a place that is publically viewable. As long as the quicktopic link remains in a PM, then you won't be finding it, unless you happen to guess the randomly generated URL which is unlikely. Of course, there still is a problem if someone leaks the quicktopic thread somewhere publically viewable prematurely. But that's their own fault and then we ban them or give them a paddlin' or a stern talking to or something.
I only bring it up because it happened to me. I had a QT with notes about a game or something, and a Px2 player dropped in to say hello after having found the QT from googling my username. They just pointed out how easy it was, but they were already out of the game so it didn't matter.
But, it's definitely possible.
This is not a problem. We've had this discussion before.Search engines do not plug in every possible url extension for www.quicktopic.com an see which ones are valid pages. That would take an impossibly long time and is stupid and silly to do. Rather
If it matters, Tevish didn't get found in this game through a Google search. He got found because he posted in his Twilight Zone game using the wrong login, so people with access to QTs in that game could figure out that he was using that alt over here. and that's what eventually led to his modkill, not a Google search.
If it matters, Tevish didn't get found in this game through a Google search. He got found because he posted in his Twilight Zone game using the wrong login, so people with access to QTs in that game could figure out that he was using that alt over he
If it matters, Tevish didn't get found in this game through a Google search. He got found because he posted in his Twilight Zone game using the wrong login, so people with access to QTs in that game could figure out that he was using that alt over here. and that's what eventually led to his modkill, not a Google search.
just mentioning that this information potentially gives TZ info away so it would have been better to keep it a secret until TZ was over.
just mentioning that this information potentially gives TZ info away so it would have been better to keep it a secret until TZ was over.
If it matters, Tevish didn't get found in this game through a Google search. He got found because he posted in his Twilight Zone game using the wrong login, so people with access to QTs in that game could figure out that he was using that alt over here. and that's what eventually led to his modkill, not a Google search.
just mentioning that this information potentially gives TZ info away so it would have been better to keep it a secret until TZ was over.
True, but the info was already out there anyway. It had been mentioned earlier.
just mentioning that this information potentially gives TZ info away so it would have been better to keep it a secret until TZ was over.[/quote]True, but the info was already out there anyway. It had been mentioned earlier.
If it matters, Tevish didn't get found in this game through a Google search. He got found because he posted in his Twilight Zone game using the wrong login, so people with access to QTs in that game could figure out that he was using that alt over here. and that's what eventually led to his modkill, not a Google search.
just mentioning that this information potentially gives TZ info away so it would have been better to keep it a secret until TZ was over.
True, but the info was already out there anyway. It had been mentioned earlier.
I sent a pm showing the info I decoded. I decoded it far earlier then your original post in the quote chain. It might just be minor info though.
just mentioning that this information potentially gives TZ info away so it would have been better to keep it a secret until TZ was over.[/quote]True, but the info was already out there anyway. It had been mentioned earlier.[/quote]I sent a pm showing
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