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Flag febbstalicious42 November 7, 2012 2:29 PM PST
Originally designed by Mono789 and febb, we hope that you enjoy this game almost as much as I will.
This game is for 12 players.

Feel free to metagame and WIFOM as much as you want.

Flag JayDreven November 7, 2012 2:42 PM PST
In
Flag Tevish_Szat November 7, 2012 2:42 PM PST
Sure, I can play 2 and host a promo.  /in
Flag PeregrineV November 7, 2012 3:02 PM PST
/in

or am I?

The WIFOM begins....

NOW! 
Flag Ahlyis November 7, 2012 3:27 PM PST
How quickly some forget the disappointment of Project Turbine.

Sorry, but febb's last game didn't inspire me much. I think I'll pass on this one.
Flag JayDreven November 8, 2012 10:25 AM PST
Ahl, you be too harsh. Iirc, most of the disappointment of turbine lie in the lack of interthread interaction. Clearly that's not going to be a factor in a game with one thread. Plus I need more people for my battle of wits. Don't you want to go up against a scillian when death is on the line? D:
Flag Freddeh November 8, 2012 11:12 AM PST
You're so cute JD *pats his head*.
Flag Ahlyis November 8, 2012 11:43 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 10:25AM, JayDreven wrote:

Ahl, you be too harsh. Iirc, most of the disappointment of turbine lie in the lack of interthread interaction. Clearly that's not going to be a factor in a game with one thread. Plus I need more people for my battle of wits. Don't you want to go up against a scillian when death is on the line? D:


Most of MY disappointment was with the promise of great flavor when we voted for the game and the almost complete lack of flavor in the actual game.

Iirc, FFP's disappointment came mostly because it was two 8 player games instead of one 16 player game, for the most part.

Others had other reasons for disappointment. But I don't remember anyone raving about how great the game was.

It's nothing personal against Febb. I like him fine as a player. But Project Turbine doesn't inspire me to want to see him run another game, or to join it since he is.

Flag Rubik November 8, 2012 12:01 PM PST
I can join or replace.
Flag Tevish_Szat November 8, 2012 12:56 PM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 11:43AM, Ahlyis wrote:

Nov 8, 2012 -- 10:25AM, JayDreven wrote:

Ahl, you be too harsh. Iirc, most of the disappointment of turbine lie in the lack of interthread interaction. Clearly that's not going to be a factor in a game with one thread. Plus I need more people for my battle of wits. Don't you want to go up against a scillian when death is on the line? D:


Most of MY disappointment was with the promise of great flavor when we voted for the game and the almost complete lack of flavor in the actual game.

Iirc, FFP's disappointment came mostly because it was two 8 player games instead of one 16 player game, for the most part.

Others had other reasons for disappointment. But I don't remember anyone raving about how great the game was.

It's nothing personal against Febb. I like him fine as a player. But Project Turbine doesn't inspire me to want to see him run another game, or to join it since he is.



Look at it this way: We're being promised a game with no real flavor and a specific player count this time.  So, you know exactly what you're getting into, at least.

Flag Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy November 9, 2012 12:04 AM PST
son, I was dissappoint because

lack of size
lack of interesting roles
lack of flavour
lack of moderation

Flag JayDreven November 9, 2012 6:01 AM PST
Frankly you can say its nothing personal all you want, but when you come into a man's sign up thread with no intention of signing up and begin to berate his last GO adventure, it's kinda personal. You don't want to play, cool. There's no reason to come in and try to discourage others from playing though. Turbine was turbine. WIFOM is WIFOM. This thread is for people who want to metagame the **** out of some wine that happens to be placed in the foreground of their perception. Let's move away from the Turbine hate and get back to the game at hand. Enough of this Asian land war.
Flag Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy November 9, 2012 10:09 AM PST
sorry, I meant no offense. I just felt misquoted and wanted to correct it. my tone surely wasn't the best and I apologize for that.
Flag JayDreven November 9, 2012 12:40 PM PST
I don't think your tone was bad ffp, or even ahl's. My point was just that we needed to get away from there and back to signing up for wifom which is what the thread is for.
Flag Monoredburn November 12, 2012 4:06 AM PST
I'll sign up.
Flag Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy November 12, 2012 7:42 AM PST
I once thought about designing a mafia game where every role was kinda redundant, a naive cop, a tracker that can't track because everyone else is a ninja, a doc-blocker with no doc around and so on. I wanted to call it WIFOM mafia or mafia mafia (hinting at the game outthinking the player or hinting at the redundancy)
in the end, I thought it would just be a frustrating game

well, my own game proves to be less intensive to moderate than anticipated and activity in limited boards also quickly died down after the inital push, so why not

/in

to fill this game
Flag Zipperflesh November 17, 2012 11:43 PM PST
/in
Flag febbstalicious42 November 18, 2012 9:44 AM PST
4 more.
Flag azuro_arcanis November 20, 2012 3:23 AM PST
/in
Flag azuro_arcanis November 20, 2012 3:23 AM PST
/in
Flag Arioch22 November 20, 2012 8:32 AM PST
I'll give it a go!
Flag Zokorad November 20, 2012 1:16 PM PST
in
Flag Freddeh November 29, 2012 2:13 PM PST
fine I'll cave, its been sittin here too long: In.
Flag febbstalicious42 November 29, 2012 3:10 PM PST
okey dokes
Flag Merestil_Haye November 30, 2012 6:37 AM PST
Jay asked me to take a look.

I'm currently in one game and don't handle two very well any  more (one tends to suffer.) If you want a sub though, I'll sit on the sidelines and watch.
Flag Thragtusk2468 December 6, 2012 5:34 PM PST
in
Flag FirstTurnKill December 6, 2012 9:42 PM PST
It appears that you folks have me a bit hooked now, though it looks like your list is filled.  If you need a replacement, I'm in.
Flag Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy December 6, 2012 11:49 PM PST
please, allow me to offer you my seat. I was mainly signing up to get this game running in the first place and wasn't all that interested in playing anyway. it is important to give new players the opportunity to play.

/switch from in to replacement
Flag Freddeh December 7, 2012 4:41 AM PST

Dec 6, 2012 -- 9:42PM, FirstTurnKill wrote:

It appears that you folks have me a bit hooked now, though it looks like your list is filled.  If you need a replacement, I'm in.




Eeeeeexcellent, heck knows we need fresh blood in here .

One of the newer guys can have my slot as well. I'll still replace though if needed.

Flag Ahlyis December 10, 2012 10:03 AM PST

Nov 9, 2012 -- 6:01AM, JayDreven wrote:

1)Frankly you can say its nothing personal all you want, but when you come into a man's sign up thread with no intention of signing up and begin to berate his last GO adventure, it's kinda personal. 2)You don't want to play, cool. There's no reason to come in and try to discourage others from playing though. 3)Turbine was turbine. WIFOM is WIFOM.


1) Okay, you're right. It is somewhat personal. I don't believe Febb is an approrpiate choice to host a game on this site when this site is already almost dead from lack of participation. I have nothing against him as a player. He can get himself forcibly replaced/modkilled for inactivity however much he wants there.

2) I wasn't trying to discourage others from playing, though I recognize that could be a side product. I was trying to "complain" about Febb being handed a second game in a row, especially after the disappointment of his first, on multiple levels.

3) And both suffer from inattention from the mod. Turbine barely got enough attention to run, but was lacking any sort of Mod oversight to keep it running smoothly or provide the flavor that was promised. WIFOM is suffering so badly that, despite having had enough players to fire for nearly 2 weeks now, it is still sitting in signups with not a peep from Febb.

Even if he were to come in and fire it off right now, is there any reason to think he'll suddenly become an attentive Mod, handling his game in a timely manner?

And before you tell me to shut up because it doesn't concern me since I chose not to play anyway, it DOES concern me. I'm waiting for the next game and THAT game won't even go into signups until this one is done, which at this point may be never!

Flag JayDreven December 10, 2012 11:14 AM PST
I make no illusions (allusions?) that febb is going to be an attentive mod, especially given I know he's stated as having connectivity issues and is slated to visit a certain someone who will definitely be demanding most of his attention. But its not my place to be a host police when he won the pc and waited his time on the list.

With that said, its been a week since he told me he'd try to get it up during that week. PaPa will not wait around forever to host a game. WIFOM is officially shelfed for the moment.

Ahl, you ready to host?
Flag Ahlyis December 10, 2012 1:20 PM PST

Dec 10, 2012 -- 11:14AM, JayDreven wrote:

With that said, its been a week since he told me he'd try to get it up during that week. PaPa will not wait around forever to host a game. WIFOM is officially shelfed for the moment.

Ahl, you ready to host?


Should this conversation continue via PM? I'm not sure this is the appropriate place for it. But I'll answer here for now.

As for me running the game, I can be ready, but is Schizo really next? I'll be happy to run it, but I didn't complain about Febb because I wanted to jump line or anything.

Under the assumption that Schizo is up next,  there are 3 things that need addressed...

1) I'll need to know what size we'll be running for. The game can be balanced for any size 8 and up, but I do need to know what size we're aiming for. I originally planned for 16 and revamped for 12 during one of the changes here, but whatever size is decided on, I'll check the design over and adjust accordingly.

2) I'll need a couple of days to finalize any updates, though that can be done while signups are underway if nobody objects. It's not hard to do, it just takes a little time. If you want the game to get another review once I've tweaked the roles for whatever size is decided upon, you'll also have to decide whether you want to hold up signups for that too.

3) I may need a BuM. I'm fine with running it without a BuM, but am also fine if someone wants to volunteer for it. If a BuM is going to be required, then that too is up to you whether to let signups begin before one is found or not. I believe Silly was the BuM of record last time anyone asked, but that has been a while and I don't think Silly is even active any more.

Flag JayDreven December 10, 2012 1:50 PM PST
I'm mobile at the moment so I can't pm. But I'll pm you details when I get back to a computer tonight (read as a few hours or so).
Flag razorborne December 10, 2012 2:17 PM PST
if you need a BuM I can volunteer, I probably wouldn't be playing in it anyway since I try to limit myself to one game at a time these days and the next PC is coming up soon.

 
Flag febbstalicious42 December 11, 2012 7:34 AM PST
Again, sorry for the disappearence. I am officially back from the two weeks I was away at a funeral thingy. I will be gone in another couple of weeks, so I agree with the decision to shelve WIFOM.
Flag Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy December 11, 2012 7:44 AM PST

Dec 10, 2012 -- 2:17PM, razorborne wrote:

if you need a BuM I can volunteer, I probably wouldn't be playing in it anyway since I try to limit myself to one game at a time these days and the next PC is coming up soon.

 



I don't think that a new PC will be starting already by the time this game wants to be finished

I'd guess nominations, voting and sign-up will take more than 2 weeks

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