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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 10:54AM #781
theatog
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lol ahlyis.... how can you sound both so right and so scummy? i guess my perspective is screwed already

So here's something I do near the end of the day. I don't think i've ever typed it out coz' to most people it will probably sound stupid - I weight the wagon and see how many scums i think is on the wagon and vote against the wagon with the most scum.



Nik's wagon
Ahlyis - I consider the post made 2 hours before deadline "active lurking" but then to be fair, i'm not sure what you'd want to say at that point. Null for now. slightly scummy from previous activities. 0
FFP - I think his reason on voting on a doc is more sound and better written. tough call since I do like FFP's call usually. 0
PK - by far the most scummy near the end of the day. Your reasoning to justify a blatant bandwagon is just bad. And the worse part is, it's worse than all of your other reasoning made by yourself in the same day. I don't know how you can "trade down" in the logic department except to justify your blatant bandwagon vote. Scum. -1


SF wagon
Still not voting that justify the stupid lurker wagon. As I stated my opinion on this, I think we can live with 2 lurker in 1 game. But not showing up for your defense is just terrible. -1
Niklor - Null for now. I do find him leaning scummy but not a day one lynch. I don't understand why the autoverdict of "unprovable" from FFP. I can see that we will never confirm doc but we can always confirm alignment. I think discussion about Nik should be saved until we are debating his "babyfaceness". again, if you'd argue i am cop leading. just go away.
 Silly - When did you start your lurker lynch business again? Is that a lazy town vote? Personally not a big fan of it. 0
Sleeping - Don't know what to think. But your pbp reminds me of another new player who's town in his first game. I will let your lurkiness slide for today since you're actually voting.    
Razorborne - He stuck to what he started. bravo for "persistency."

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 10:58AM #782
Niklor
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May 3, 2012 -- 5:24PM, Sleeping wrote:

>>>Niklor

Sleeping is very much trying to lurk. He even has said as much. However, I find his small contributions greater than SF's, even though he seems to be lurking without such intent. Could be wrong of course.


You've mentioned this (the bolded part) now and like two other times previously. It is untrue. I never said I was going to continue lurking, that would be stupid and it's a lie. I said I was intentionally lurking early on in the thread and I noted that I wasn't going to do so anymore. Any lurking I've done recently is "my bad." I honestly forgot about this game during the last two days.




Where did you say that you were not going to try to lurk?

May 3, 2012 -- 5:24PM, Sleeping wrote:

>>>Niklor


Peregrine needs to replace out or catch up. With the end of the day drawing close, it's inexcusable that he still hasn't managed to do so.


Agree.




Points a bit outdated now, but I'm glad you agree.

May 3, 2012 -- 5:24PM, Sleeping wrote:

>>>Freddeh


You need to ask town if you should claim? Only you and your knowledge of your role should tell you if you should claim or not, so I'm inclined to abstain.


I agree, Niklor should decide for himself.




I find it funny people think I won't decide for myself ultimately.

May 3, 2012 -- 5:24PM, Sleeping wrote:

>>>Niklor


3 yes's with no opposed. Might as well claim.
Swordless, Town Aligned Doctor
And now assuming I survive today I'm a bit useless as I'm going to have to protect myself.


I guess. But that's probably what mafia would expect you to do. Though you are probably a more likely candidate than anyone else for killing.




Hence why I must protect myself.

May 3, 2012 -- 5:24PM, Sleeping wrote:

>>>Niklor


I would vote for a lurker, but none of the lurker wagons are large enough for me to hope they will grow, especially since no one except you and me seems to be concerned with the lurkers.


This is the kind of thinking that leads to lurkers never getting lynched. Somebody has to be the cork.




Survival votes are the reason lurkers never get lynched?

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Apr 23, 2012 -- 4:34PM, Niklor wrote:

I, Niklor, in the event of a situation where I am placed at L-1, in other words 1 vote away from being lynched, will bring the hammer vote down upon myself unless it is a known Lylo situation by either announcement or general consensus. Note, if the general consensus is that it's Lylo on days when it clearly isn't, I will ignore them. Please respect the self-hammer by not hammering Niklor in non-Lylo scenarios.

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:00AM #783
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May 3, 2012 -- 5:56PM, ProphetKing wrote:

This flip flopping is horribly unbecoming, but w/e. 

I've changed my mind: Unvote: Freddeh, Vote: Niklor

I keep thinking about Niklor saying his role makes more sense as bulletproof and that he intends to be a doctor who self protects himself. Bulletproof don is a common don modifier. The comment about interest in this game...playing with your cards drawn to your chest but flipped backwards. I don't like asking permission to claim.

And doctor is the most common scum fake claim - feel like we're flipping coins here and that a Niklor flip is heavier weight to scum.




You do realize the question was intended to see if anyone was opposed and why, not to actually listen to anyone who thinks I should have waited until today to claim instead of yesterday.

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Apr 23, 2012 -- 4:34PM, Niklor wrote:

I, Niklor, in the event of a situation where I am placed at L-1, in other words 1 vote away from being lynched, will bring the hammer vote down upon myself unless it is a known Lylo situation by either announcement or general consensus. Note, if the general consensus is that it's Lylo on days when it clearly isn't, I will ignore them. Please respect the self-hammer by not hammering Niklor in non-Lylo scenarios.

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:03AM #784
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May 4, 2012 -- 12:10AM, Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy wrote:

if we decide to lynch a lurker, it should not be the lurker that niklor is advocating

if niklor is scum, he knows the alignments of the lurkers and can easily deflect the lynch upon a town-lurker.




"if x is scum, he knows the alignments of the lurkers and can easily deflect the lynch upon a town-lurker." 

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Apr 23, 2012 -- 4:34PM, Niklor wrote:

I, Niklor, in the event of a situation where I am placed at L-1, in other words 1 vote away from being lynched, will bring the hammer vote down upon myself unless it is a known Lylo situation by either announcement or general consensus. Note, if the general consensus is that it's Lylo on days when it clearly isn't, I will ignore them. Please respect the self-hammer by not hammering Niklor in non-Lylo scenarios.

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:09AM #785
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May 4, 2012 -- 11:00AM, Niklor wrote:

You do realize the question was intended to see if anyone was opposed and why, not to actually listen to anyone who thinks I should have waited until today to claim instead of yesterday.


You do realize that you can claim that's what you were doing all you want but that from my perspective it looks more like you were testing the waters to see if you could get away with a last second claim or not, and when you found you couldn't, then you claimed it was all just a test.

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:13AM #786
theatog
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Ok, that really didn't help. 

But the way how the SF wagon surges quickly pass nik's in the last hour is a bit scary. But yet I feel that the "heavier scummy hand" on that wagon is Nik and Silly.

PK is by far the scummiest person between the two wagons. 

But I don't believe he could anticipate his vote making such a difference -- that My vote will swing the lynch towards his favor. (like how it developed to from N3-SF2 to N3-SF4)

In the light of "my motto" that regretting after a wrong action is better than regretting after no action" I will take a leap of faith and Vote


At this point, it's usually means both wagons are likely town. I am struggling with the idea  preserving a claimed player over a lurking player. But however, it is true that voting Nik will give the best info

Damn it i can't do it.... I can't imagine the possibility of handing a free doc to scum : (

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:15AM #787
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lol

I was gonna say who can give me a tiny push towards my vote.

But then only people that is for a Nik lynch is here. 

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:22AM #788
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Niklor - 3 (Ahlyis, FFP, PK)
theatog - 1 (Pdr_Br)
ShadowFyre - 4 (Niklor, Silly, Sleeping, Razorborne)
razorborne - 1 (Freddeh)
Not Voting - 3 (PeregrineV, ShadowFyre, theatog)

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:36AM #789
theatog
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Now they are both gone.

Really no one want to give me more encouragement to their own cause? LOL is this some kind of reverse psychology?

Ok. i'm thinking too much into this.

If SF's wagon is scum-powered, it's essentially doing the town favor. A lurker lynch inhabits info. But that's not something we are lacking throughout day 1.

If Nik's wagon is scum-powered, it's because they want free doc blood.

So yea, I have been typing stupid all this time. I understand it makes no difference at this point. just to make my stance clear. Vote SF

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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:50AM #790
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Good night everyone.  Looks like SF hangs and we all get 72 hours to sleep it off.  Oh well.  Could have been worse.  At least this works as a policy lynch.
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