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2 years ago ::
Oct 19, 2011 - 10:31AM
#631
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I had you, the problem was there were more active scum than there were active town, and I made a stupid boner to convince the other active town (mono) that I was scum.
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SoM Mafia - Mirran-Aligned Mason - Killed Night 5 - Mafia win Iron Maiden Mafia (Classic) - Mafia-aligned Vanilla - Lived - Mafia Win - MVP PK Hates you (Int) - Mafia Don - Lived - Mafia Flawless Victory Toxic Waste Mafia (PC#3) - Mafia-aligned Roleblocker turned Hive-aligned Roleblocker - Hive win - MVP Basic #4: The Orchard Tree Mafia - Town-aligned Apple - Killed Night 4 - Mafia Win Mono has Mono, the privates story - Mafia-aligned Godfather - Lived - Mafia Win Touhou: Border Collapse (PC#4) - Sakuya Izayoi - Died Night 2 - Mafia win Tales of Symphonia (Int+) - Presea Combatir, Taciturn Girl - Lived - Town Win Sunflowers for Ragnarokio (PC#5) - In progress
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2 years ago ::
Oct 19, 2011 - 11:05AM
#632
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@Zinger- I read your QT notes as the game progressed, but would like to hear your thoughts and opinions on how the whole thing played out.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 19, 2011 - 1:20PM
#633
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Date Joined:
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Also MVP's and such, I have an idea of who I think they should be, but I'm curious how much that parallels yours.
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SoM Mafia - Mirran-Aligned Mason - Killed Night 5 - Mafia win Iron Maiden Mafia (Classic) - Mafia-aligned Vanilla - Lived - Mafia Win - MVP PK Hates you (Int) - Mafia Don - Lived - Mafia Flawless Victory Toxic Waste Mafia (PC#3) - Mafia-aligned Roleblocker turned Hive-aligned Roleblocker - Hive win - MVP Basic #4: The Orchard Tree Mafia - Town-aligned Apple - Killed Night 4 - Mafia Win Mono has Mono, the privates story - Mafia-aligned Godfather - Lived - Mafia Win Touhou: Border Collapse (PC#4) - Sakuya Izayoi - Died Night 2 - Mafia win Tales of Symphonia (Int+) - Presea Combatir, Taciturn Girl - Lived - Town Win Sunflowers for Ragnarokio (PC#5) - In progress
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2 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2011 - 1:50AM
#634
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imho mafia had too many too strong power roles while town had too little.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2011 - 3:50AM
#635
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@Zinger- I read your QT notes as the game progressed, but would like to hear your thoughts and opinions on how the whole thing played out.
I was very entertained by how it played out. I would have liked to have seen a Day 4. The Mafia played a good game while the town for the most part slacked off. I liked that the game had more to do with what was going on in the game thread during the day than what was going on at night. Certain things worked well that I will probably use again in the future. One thing in particular that I thought worked well was telling the Godfather he was Cop immune when there was no Cop, which gave the Mafia a false sense of security. I also liked hiding the role names with names like "Elf" and "Wizard" to keep the disinformation strong. I think this was more of a benefit to Town than Mafia. The Mafia really got lucky with some of their picks, striking out a power role almost every time they went in for the kill.
Also MVP's and such, I have an idea of who I think they should be, but I'm curious how much that parallels yours.
Town MVP: I want to say Freddeh-scum. He was one of the most active town players and built some pretty concrete cases at times. Near the end he even had 2/3rds of the scum team pegged. Unfortunately it can be argued that his early claim was a strong contributor to costing town the game, so I am going to give town MVP to Mono789 instead. He arrived late in the game but every one of his posts was coming from a strong standpoint and he felt, to me at least, like one of the Town's power players near the end. Runner up: The_Unwritten.
Mafia MVP: I gotta give this one to stinkyjoeterry. Though his tactics got him a lot of negative attention from the likes of Freddeh-scum and some others, he always managed to stay clear of lynchville, and in the end I think his strategy paid off in spades for the Mafia. Runner up: PeregrineV
imho mafia had too many too strong power roles while town had too little.
I can see how you would think that, but really this is because Town's power roles never got used effectively while the Mafia used theirs to full effect. Things would have gone downhill pretty quick for the Mafia if the tracker had targeted stinkyjoeterry on Night 1. If Freddeh-scum had been able to effectively draw a Mafia kill on him, that would have also turned the game in the town's favour. Lightniing had a vig shot which never went off, and the two masons never got a chance to use their roles to help the town narrow down who might be scum. We had a Martyr who got himself killed instead of going out protecting someone else, and a one shot self-rolestopper who could have cancelled a night kill if he had used his power and been the target. There's a number of different ways things could have gone down, but ultimately the cards fell in favour of the Mafia. Sometimes that's just the way the game goes.
Town had 6 non-vanilla roles. Mafia had a Godfather, a Roleblocker, and a Poisoner. The Godfather thought he was immune to cop investigations (there was no cop), and the Roleblocker never hit anyone significant. In the end, all the Mafia really had that they made use of was a Poisoner.
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Zinger . . . 10/90 - If he bussed his don as a scum rolename cop while faux dug his grave attacking the claimed cop d1... well, if he fooled us all to lylo he deserves to win.
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Will add that I think Zinger is just a new 'type' of mafia player that doesn't really play by our standards and therefor still leaning towards town for now based on the way he plays in other games and it's seemingly the same (and I can't really see him as scum in all of them).
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The sun rises – and then is blown away by the fierce wind.
All over the world, dark clouds cover the sky. The atmosphere is covered in a dark iron curtain of cumulus. Thunder pours from the sky as if it mere rain and it hails daggers onto the ground. The people hide in fear, of whatever ungodly evil has been summoned by some fool.
The Great Guardian of the Sky, RAYQUAZA, has been summoned.
And he has come for Silly Dragons!
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Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Silly lay dead, once known in life as James, Town Aligned.
Now that Silly is dead, there is a calm. Once again all is right with the Heavens above.
But on Earth violence remains. King of Dominaria weeps over the loss of the one of his heart. He decides to end it all. He grabs an Arbok and shoves it onto it his neck. “BITE ME – END ME!” The snake does as asked and fills KoD with an exotic, incurable venom. He collapses.
Enraged and vicious, the snake systematically begins killing KoD’s poke’mon. Gengar and Beedrill are brutally slaughtered in an attempt to fight back. Skitty wisely tries to run away, but is easily taken out after Ekans discovers an underground gopher hole to pop out of. With great wide unhinged jaws, the snake swallows Skitty whole.
In great sorrow after the death of his owner, Silly, Wailord begins to look for his own lover – Skitty. It is a little known fact but whales and cats actually can interbreed in the pokemon world. Here is a graphic image illustrating this relationship.
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At noticing the scent of Skitty in the vicious Arbok, Wailord goes nuts. He begins flopping around on the land and foaming from the mouth. He turns into some kind of suicide berserker and just throws his body haphazardly into anything. Mountains are crushed, caves are demolished, the earth is sundered. And Arbok is turned into a purple fruit roll up.
Meanwhile, KoD is suddenly feeling better! “I must have a natural immunity to snake poison or something. Wow…that was certainly sad and all, but y’know, I don’t think I’ll kill my – OH MY GOD IT’S A GIANT STAMPEDING WHALE!”
It was like dropping the Moon onto an ant. KoD never stood a chance.
…wait, maybe he did! The blowhole! KoD managed to become a modern day Jonah and avoid certain dead by smashing. He begins to live inside the whale itself, starting a farming community on the great beasts tongue. Mostly living out of self grown mushrooms plucked from his own horribly unhygienic body and drinking whale saliva to survive, KoD is…well, still suicidal. But clinging onto life.
However, one day the great beast yawns. KoD tumbles back into the digestive system. His skin is flayed away by acid. Miraculously, he survives as some kind of horrible walking pile of muscles. Then…in the most horrible, disgusting way imaginable…he manages to escape from the whale using a secret exit.
Of course, the local insects also like what came out of the whale’s secret exit. They find KoD and decide he’d be much better with several stings and bites. KoD becomes violently ill from malaria and begins puking. Unfortunately he loses a lung in the process and has to be rushed to the hospital. There he is put into an iron lung and locked away by the hospital staff, who promptly forget to feed him. KoD starts starving to death inside an iron machine that is keeping him alive against his will. Crying every day, he wishes just to die.
Then, one day, a young boy from a local charity group brings KoD breakfast. There’s eggs, orange juice, coffee…and a bran muffin.
KoD eagerly eats the breakfast, having begun digesting his own stomach before being given the wonderful gift of food. He saves the muffin for last. He takes a big bite and begins choking. He passes out and dies from lack of oxygen.
However, the EMTs finally heard KoD’s cry! They bring in the jaws of life and a deliberator. AMAZINGLY, they actually bring KoD back from the dead! KoD managed to survive the terrible curse of the muffin! All is saved.
Unfortunately, whales are incredibly fond of muffins too. Wailord shows back up seeking the muffin and grinds everyone in the hospital to a fine paste. KoD is now a pancake and was, before being smashed into a breakfast food himself, Jessie, Town Aligned.
Eventually Silly’s Wailord killed itself after realizing its life as a reality TV star was meaningless. Silly’s other Poke’mon, Zapdos died of a heroin overdose. … Serena is drinking coffee peacefully. It is a luxury she will not have often. Despite the caffeine, she drifts off into sleep. She awakes to a beautiful woman. Spoiler:
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clearyjynx.png The big, puffy pink lips…yes, Serena must give this woman a lovely kiss! The making out is passionate and forceful. There is tongue on tongue action. During this ungodly nightmare of mankind/poke'mon relations, a mysterious move is made. Jynx yawns incredibly loud - popping her cheekbones...which turn out to be whirling blades of death. Shocked Serena tries to escape, but Jynx bear hugs her into submission. In an instant the Jynx whirls Serena's tongue into a bloody pile of dust. Slowly, the electronic blades go deeper and deeper up Serena’s throat until finally reaching the brain. A few slices here and there…Serena has been given an involuntary lobotomy. She stares into space aimlessly. She is of the living but her spirit is gone. The odd Jynx continues its plan. It vomits out several eggs into the now living corpse of Serena, via oral entry. They hatch into little Jynx maggots and begin to feast on Serena’s non-vitals. Slowly, the maggots begin to mature while eating out the inside of the still breathing, lobotomized Serena. They keep her alive in order to sustain the body as a food source – ensuring to eat an unimportant muscle, a vestigial pancreas…she’ll stay fresh longer if her heart still beats… It’s too horrible to watch anymore. All you need to know is that she was Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her remaining Poke’mon, Gengar and Mismagius died alone in the wilderness. Television informs you Glare has the orb now. It then flips to some local news about a ship being fired upon. Bored, you watch aimlessly until you hear a gunshot. A random Suicine had it's brains blown out. The exit wound is the size of your fist. You try to apply medicine but you realize duct tape can't fix the hypothalmus. ... TL;DR: * Silly Dragons died as James, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Wailord and Zapdos. He was obliterated by Rayquaza. 321wailord.png145zapdos.png * King of Dominaria died as Jessie, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Skitty, Gengar and Beedrill. He was crushed by Wailord. 300skitty.png094gengar.png015beedrill.png * Serena died as Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her Poke'mon were Gengar and Mismagius. She was given a Lovely Kiss. 094gengar.png429mismagius.png * A Suicine died. 245suicune.png * Glare has the Orb.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2011 - 4:33AM
#636
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Things would have gone downhill pretty quick for the Mafia if the tracker had targeted stinkyjoeterry on Night 1.
yeah, what are the odds of that happening? also a successful tracking isn't nearly as damning as a successful cop-investigation. it isn't totally off-shot to weasel yourself out of this
If Freddeh-scum had been able to effectively draw a Mafia kill on him, that would have also turned the game in the town's favour.
not necessarily, especially in a game with a poisoner around. it would have just confused stuff even more.
Lightniing had a vig shot which never went off,
a vig hits town more often than he hits scum
and the two masons never got a chance to use their roles to help the town narrow down who might be scum.
which would only have been possible because I was one of them. if masons had been someone else, even that confirmation would not have been 100% and instead most likely lead to a lynch of of one of the masons.
We had a Martyr who got himself killed instead of going out protecting someone else,
which would have still meant one townie less and who should he have been protecting? those powerful vanillas out there?
and a one shot self-rolestopper who could have cancelled a night kill if he had used his power and been the target.
the odds of this happening are even worse than a successful tracker catch.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2011 - 6:59AM
#637
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FFP.. you're more active now than you were the entire game  (edit: corrected typo)
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2 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2011 - 10:16AM
#638
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because in this game, I wasn't only lurking out of laziness, I was also lurking on purpose. I wanted to present myself as an easy lynch for the mafia and then, when they finally tried to, confirm myself as town and catch 'em all.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2011 - 11:12AM
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Despite having died Night 0, I think I deserved the Mod MVP for my awesome Bumming of this game. Sadly, Zinger didn't even give out a Mod MVP.  FFP, each of those might have been small likelihood of happening, but there were a LOT of them. Any one of them could have changed the outcome. All combined, I think the game was reasonably balanced.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2011 - 11:45AM
#640
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Date Joined:
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Or, it would have just changed the outcome from a flawless mafia victory, to 2 out of 3 alive mafia victory.
Which I believe is FFPs point.
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SoM Mafia - Mirran-Aligned Mason - Killed Night 5 - Mafia win Iron Maiden Mafia (Classic) - Mafia-aligned Vanilla - Lived - Mafia Win - MVP PK Hates you (Int) - Mafia Don - Lived - Mafia Flawless Victory Toxic Waste Mafia (PC#3) - Mafia-aligned Roleblocker turned Hive-aligned Roleblocker - Hive win - MVP Basic #4: The Orchard Tree Mafia - Town-aligned Apple - Killed Night 4 - Mafia Win Mono has Mono, the privates story - Mafia-aligned Godfather - Lived - Mafia Win Touhou: Border Collapse (PC#4) - Sakuya Izayoi - Died Night 2 - Mafia win Tales of Symphonia (Int+) - Presea Combatir, Taciturn Girl - Lived - Town Win Sunflowers for Ragnarokio (PC#5) - In progress
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