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thank you zipper for pointing out exactly who is the last scum.

So this looks fairly obvious to me and heres why:

SF has to be a vanilla becasue there was some crucial nights where if he was cult/killer/whatever then we would have had a no hit, when in fact, we still were hit, he even had a few mod prods because of those days he went so inactive.

I know EXACTLY what i am, and it is in fact town.  this can be backed up majorly with the fact that:

A. i was one of the main lynch proponents for actually killing off ahlyis because people were being far to lazy to actually try to do anything about it and i called him out on his fake role
B. I also got zinger killed, primarily because i was also from the start pointing out how retarded it is for being a survivor when a cop outs him as a SK.
C. I'm also one of the few people who have been actually trying to keep the town doing stuff, and not sitting by handing the other side a straight out victory.

Therefore by process of elimination, freddeh you are not just scum, but probably deserve Scum MVP, had the fact that it didn't look like SF was confirmed town to me for a few nights, you may have pulled this out of you're hat and won this.
seriously you kept the 2 worst people to deal with in lylo alive to keep up with.  though you still have a halfway decent of a chance if SF screws this up royally, goes with you to kill me and hands you the game.
Vote:Freddeh


For SF to consider, mind you freddeh also when looking back had:
A. Tried hard to keep ahlyis alive far longer then he should have, after being outed.
B. was the main pusher for Zingers Claim not to be garbage, when in fact, there was literally no reason for it to have held water.
C. also when Symokoto tried to point out inconsistancies with his own arguement, he went and died the next day.  this helped convieniently sweep it under the rug and keep him safe from the lynch.

Sep 11, 2011 -- 9:59PM, Freddeh wrote:

Sep 11, 2011 -- 1:14PM, useless_mancer wrote:

thank you zipper for pointing out exactly who is the last scum.

So this looks fairly obvious to me and heres why:

SF has to be a vanilla becasue there was some crucial nights where if he was cult/killer/whatever then we would have had a no hit, when in fact, we still were hit, he even had a few mod prods because of those days he went so inactive.

I know EXACTLY what i am, and it is in fact town.  this can be backed up majorly with the fact that:

A. i was one of the main lynch proponents for actually killing off ahlyis because people were being far to lazy to actually try to do anything about it and i called him out on his fake role
B. I also got zinger killed, primarily because i was also from the start pointing out how retarded it is for being a survivor when a cop outs him as a SK.
C. I'm also one of the few people who have been actually trying to keep the town doing stuff, and not sitting by handing the other side a straight out victory.

Therefore by process of elimination, freddeh you are not just scum, but probably deserve Scum MVP, had the fact that it didn't look like SF was confirmed town to me for a few nights, you may have pulled this out of you're hat and won this.
seriously you kept the 2 worst people to deal with in lylo alive to keep up with.  though you still have a halfway decent of a chance if SF screws this up royally, goes with you to kill me and hands you the game.
Vote:Freddeh


For SF to consider, mind you freddeh also when looking back had:
A. Tried hard to keep ahlyis alive far longer then he should have, after being outed.
B. was the main pusher for Zingers Claim not to be garbage, when in fact, there was literally no reason for it to have held water.
C. also when Symokoto tried to point out inconsistancies with his own arguement, he went and died the next day.  this helped convieniently sweep it under the rug and keep him safe from the lynch.

Yup I agree with the analysis on SF, and with DrD dead...

Thank you for proving to us that you're the last cultist. We'll go point-by-point.

A. Because there is NO way you would have bussed him! Oh wait...this reads like that was your plan all along. I was wrong, just because you had inside info that made you more right about Ahl doesn't make you look better.
B. Please spread lies and deciept more. I was the main person that pushed for Zinger to get lynched on DAY 1 because I called his SK'ness. I just thought he had a weird role for some reason because this is a Zipper-made game and he likes to do things like that. Besides, him dead didn't stop the killings, so maybe he just was a survivor with the cult doing the dirty work and wanted to stay alive? We won't know until the design doc for that.
C. 'Look at me I am awesome' arguments are never good, especially since you aren't the only one thats been frustrated at the inactivity of this game the last few days.

C2. Good job trying to frame that on me -_-.

Vote: Useless

Full of crap and the only choice for me at this point anyway, since if SF is it then hes already won.

I'll agree that if it is SF then he definitely won.

seriously though it is either you or me and i know exactly that i am vanilla, not sure about you though.

you do realize you could have pointed out how you are town rather then trying to follow my arguement and flaming, right?

I now know for a fact you arn't even trying to convince yourself its anyone other then me which means you know for a fact you're best bet is to try to convince SF to vote me instead of you.

you also now realize that if you had actually tried to point out that SF was for some reason, then you may have had a chance to convince me earlier, but you didn't and hindsight is 20/20.  eh oh well.

Also good job on pointing yourself out as scum, i'm amused highly by this:

"I was the main person that pushed for Zinger to get lynched on DAY 1 because I called his SK'ness"

you now realize that he was outed as an SK, then claimed survivor.  there was literally no way to tell until he was outed, and that wasn't until day 2.  therefore you claiming day 1 he was scumzorz means that you didn't and are specifically lying about this.

Good job commiting LaL.

Finally i like how you agree with my arguement then attempt to twist it so you don't look as bad, you haven't anwsered the symo thing, which is honestly the scummiest thing really anyone has done nearly all game.

Sep 12, 2011 -- 3:45PM, Freddeh wrote:

Sep 12, 2011 -- 7:26AM, useless_mancer wrote:

I'll agree that if it is SF then he definitely won.

seriously though it is either you or me and i know exactly that i am vanilla, not sure about you though.

So wishy-washy...I'm vanilla as well, thus I think you're lying. And how much you're trying to paint falsities on me just makes me more sure of this vote.

you do realize you could have pointed out how you are town rather then trying to follow my arguement and flaming, right?

1) Thats just not how I roll, especially when I'm getting attacked using lies.
2) 'Look at me I am awesome' is a MAJOR scumtell, one that you committed.

I now know for a fact you arn't even trying to convince yourself its anyone other then me which means you know for a fact you're best bet is to try to convince SF to vote me instead of you.

We already went over this. You've acted extremely scummy today, and SF is SF, its impossible to get a read because he never says anything. Finally the fact that you voted first means you're scared and are playing for the tie hoping that SF never even shows up. I don't need to convince you to vote SF because I'm sure you're the scum here.

you also now realize that if you had actually tried to point out that SF was for some reason, then you may have had a chance to convince me earlier, but you didn't and hindsight is 20/20.  eh oh well.

I'm sure all I needed to do to convince you was vote him, so you can hammer him and win -_-.

Also good job on pointing yourself out as scum, i'm amused highly by this:

"I was the main person that pushed for Zinger to get lynched on DAY 1 because I called his SK'ness"

you now realize that he was outed as an SK, then claimed survivor.  there was literally no way to tell until he was outed, and that wasn't until day 2.  therefore you claiming day 1 he was scumzorz means that you didn't and are specifically lying about this.

Its called good scumhunting, and I used it on day 1 because Zinger was acting extremely disconnected from the game like he was a SA role. I take it you didn't read that day very well, because I pushed for the Zinger lynch up and until he claimed the role, then the claim was so out there and made enough sense with his actions that I thought he was telling the truth. Oh and I'm relatively certain that was near the end of day 1, not on day 2. I don't know where you're getting that.

Good job commiting LaL.

Good job coming up with BS to make it look like I'm lying.

Finally i like how you agree with my arguement then attempt to twist it so you don't look as bad, you haven't anwsered the symo thing, which is honestly the scummiest thing really anyone has done nearly all game.

C2. Good job trying to frame that on me -_-.

I did answer it with the above. You're coming up with WIFOM and calling it the scummiest thing anyone has done all game, if thats the scummiest thing then theres a big problem with your scumhunting this game, oh wait that makes you being scum make even more sense.

I'm 100% sure that you killed Symo specifically to frame it on me, good play sure, but terrible idea to bring it up yourself.

actually if i was scum, i would have let symo live because he had a REALLY good case on you at that point and you would have died the next day had he not suddenly went off and got murdered.

well i'm reading this and i don't see you even attempting to refute it, all you are saying that I am scum because i think so and that I am lying according to you.

I like how hellbent you think i am scum, when in reality you are trying to flail around so that you can catch onto something so that you do not fall and die.

Keep telling yourself i'm scum, no matter how many times you repeat it, this isn't true, because you are the scum and this is an autoflail response for trying to escape it.

Its not my fault you need to fight for your life to keep you're scum buddies from being ashamed because you cannot avenge them.