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6 months ago ::
Dec 04, 2012 - 10:19PM
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I really like the idea of them being thrown into he Nine Hells. You could probably fuse those two together, maybe a lich under the command of Orcus is trying to gain influence and control in the Nine Hells and transforms one of the heroes.
I thought Asmodeus would be more fitting for the nine hells. Transforming a hero into a demon could be fun if they are ethically twisted and if they die. All the more interesting to see if the player wants to change the characters fate.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 04, 2012 - 10:29PM
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As a DM, it's just not about life or death anymore for me. The monsters have goals and rarely does that involve killing the PCs. I thus prefer "taken out" as the option, whatever that means in context. In practice, this can often mean the character sits out a couple of sessions while the players brings in another PC he wants to try or some other story complication other than death. I find the players are more than happy to imagine this stuff on their own, too.
My 4e days are numbered (well, my "regular" 4e game days anyway) so I don't think anything close to a TPK is on the horizon.
"Taken Out" is the term used in the FATE system, so I get what you mean. As for regular 4E games, I'm not sure I could stomach 4E as it was presented to me a few years ago. My original group stopped playing 4E, for many reasons. I gave 4E a shoot and hated it's complex combat encounters, so it's in need of adjustment. I only returned to 4E as a DM pilgrimage to find out if it was my DMing that was the problem I was unhappy with rpg gaming or the system. And the journey continues...
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6 months ago ::
Dec 05, 2012 - 5:15AM
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I really like the idea of them being thrown into he Nine Hells. You could probably fuse those two together, maybe a lich under the command of Orcus is trying to gain influence and control in the Nine Hells and transforms one of the heroes.
I thought Asmodeus would be more fitting for the nine hells. Transforming a hero into a demon could be fun if they are ethically twisted and if they die. All the more interesting to see if the player wants to change the characters fate.
For gain influence I meant more along the lines of New Guy, but I like this a lot too.
We summoned a devil once. All we used was the D&D books, too. It was pretty kwazy.
God of Arrested Development and Intelligence 
Resident Left Hand of Stalin and Banana Stand Grandstander
Pie-Cooling-On-A-Windowsill of the House of Trolls
In the morning HK'll be sober but you'll still be a meatbag.
I know I misspell "Danke" in my posts. It's an inside joke.
"Ten cents gets you nuts." -George Michael
Spoiler:
Show
''Being president is like running a cemetery: you've got a lot of people under you and nobody's listening.''
—Bill Clinton
You are not a moral man. There are not enough middle fingers in the world for you.
Why do I get a silly PG-13 man giggle going everytime I see Fist Of The Forest ?
I heard samsung is making shoes that are making you run faster too.
Liar. Hipsters don't run. It's too mainstream.
Actually, Santa just didn't like you. However, you weren't on the Naughty List, so he had to give you something "better" than coal.
I'd take coal. Heating your house is expesive, and engery cost arn't going down.
Mabey if i beat enough homeless people, i won't have to be cold this year. 
"Heroes"...I wish I had those. I remember in my first-ever campaign one PC went around shootin all the unconscious baddies in the head to gain Dark Side Points...
Whaaaaaat?!??
Wow...way to waste perfectly good potential slaves.
Er...no wait I mean..uh...something not evil!
(Quotes screwed up on the next one, won't give the poster's name. It's in the Best Lines thread on the D&D forum)
First, an experience from a game I played in a few years back. Our DM didn't like 3.5 as a whole but liked parts of it. So he hands us a big ass rules packet for his modified FR campaign, complete with quotes from important NPC's on the front. I can't remember most of the HRs, just that some how gods like Cyric and Bhaal existed at the same time, despite the obvious problems there. In the end the game became a problem more because of the railroading than the HRs, but it ended with this classic line, after our ranger tried to disarm the strange woman following us WITH HIS BOW: DM: You just killed (insert random noble sounding name here) JP: Was she important? Jack: Dude, she's quoted on the front of the rules packet!
"Why in the wide,wide, world of all things irrational would I help you?
-Daniel Jackson
"Fun will now commence."
-Seven of Nine
"Excellent."
-Mr. Burns.
Whey is a crotch.
Cut the last encounter on your way out after dealing with the Darth. He's the BBEG. Treat him as such. Play up that Darth Revan is THAT much of a badarse. When the shuttle landed, I had no less than 13 JEDI MASTERS step off the shuttle. The PCs were slack-jawed. After the meetup with Bastila (as she's carrying Revan's body), only TWO jedi masters remained with her. Let me tell you, the player whining about not getting to fight Revan himself shut up pretty quickly when he saw that. 
There's so much you can do with insanity, especially when it has alot of resources.
1. Cleric cast protection from fire on Tank.
2. Tank goes in and get surrounded by enemies.
3. Wizard cast fireball and blows them up.
4. ???
5. Profit
I go by the saying," If it ain't friendly fire then it's not working."
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas.
(ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
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6 months ago ::
Dec 21, 2012 - 1:07PM
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Last night I ran a Dark Heresy (warhammer 40,000 rpg) adventure using the D&D 4E rules. It almost turned into a TPK, but in the end only one character died. I asked the player if he still wanted to continue playing his character and he did. So we had the PC hauled off to a hospital, brought back to life with a brain implant, drugs, defibrillation and losts of slight of hand. There is now a space marine in the group with a second hand bionic brain, that doesn't work that well, but keeps him alive. I can see this being losts of fun for me, and the player is already talking about roleplay memory loss for the character.
Not bad for an alternative to death.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 23, 2012 - 5:58PM
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I've seen some pretty inventive stuff when people have been "allowed" to choose when death sticks or not. Nice work!
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5 months ago ::
Dec 26, 2012 - 6:05AM
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Date Joined:
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Sounds like fun! Second hand replacement brains are always interesting haha! 
We summoned a devil once. All we used was the D&D books, too. It was pretty kwazy.
God of Arrested Development and Intelligence
Resident Left Hand of Stalin and Banana Stand Grandstander
Pie-Cooling-On-A-Windowsill of the House of Trolls
In the morning HK'll be sober but you'll still be a meatbag.
I know I misspell "Danke" in my posts. It's an inside joke.
"Ten cents gets you nuts." -George Michael
Spoiler:
Show
''Being president is like running a cemetery: you've got a lot of people under you and nobody's listening.''
—Bill Clinton
You are not a moral man. There are not enough middle fingers in the world for you.
Why do I get a silly PG-13 man giggle going everytime I see Fist Of The Forest ?
I heard samsung is making shoes that are making you run faster too.
Liar. Hipsters don't run. It's too mainstream.
Actually, Santa just didn't like you. However, you weren't on the Naughty List, so he had to give you something "better" than coal.
I'd take coal. Heating your house is expesive, and engery cost arn't going down.
Mabey if i beat enough homeless people, i won't have to be cold this year.
"Heroes"...I wish I had those. I remember in my first-ever campaign one PC went around shootin all the unconscious baddies in the head to gain Dark Side Points...
Whaaaaaat?!??
Wow...way to waste perfectly good potential slaves.
Er...no wait I mean..uh...something not evil!
(Quotes screwed up on the next one, won't give the poster's name. It's in the Best Lines thread on the D&D forum)
First, an experience from a game I played in a few years back. Our DM didn't like 3.5 as a whole but liked parts of it. So he hands us a big ass rules packet for his modified FR campaign, complete with quotes from important NPC's on the front. I can't remember most of the HRs, just that some how gods like Cyric and Bhaal existed at the same time, despite the obvious problems there. In the end the game became a problem more because of the railroading than the HRs, but it ended with this classic line, after our ranger tried to disarm the strange woman following us WITH HIS BOW: DM: You just killed (insert random noble sounding name here) JP: Was she important? Jack: Dude, she's quoted on the front of the rules packet!
"Why in the wide,wide, world of all things irrational would I help you?
-Daniel Jackson
"Fun will now commence."
-Seven of Nine
"Excellent."
-Mr. Burns.
Whey is a crotch.
Cut the last encounter on your way out after dealing with the Darth. He's the BBEG. Treat him as such. Play up that Darth Revan is THAT much of a badarse. When the shuttle landed, I had no less than 13 JEDI MASTERS step off the shuttle. The PCs were slack-jawed. After the meetup with Bastila (as she's carrying Revan's body), only TWO jedi masters remained with her. Let me tell you, the player whining about not getting to fight Revan himself shut up pretty quickly when he saw that.
There's so much you can do with insanity, especially when it has alot of resources.
1. Cleric cast protection from fire on Tank.
2. Tank goes in and get surrounded by enemies.
3. Wizard cast fireball and blows them up.
4. ???
5. Profit
I go by the saying," If it ain't friendly fire then it's not working."
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas.
(ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 1:38PM
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Date Joined:
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Sounds like fun! Second hand replacement brains are always interesting haha!
I sure hope so. I think the player will seek a better implant in the future, when the chance arises. But for now, who knows what will happen.
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