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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 9:27AM #21
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Jan 9, 2012 -- 7:09AM, bgibbons wrote:

Considering that the epic campaign is not slated to be completed until DDXP 2014, that does raise the issue of whether that series will manage to be completed before we're overtaken by an edition change.


When the next edition of D&D is released, it doesn't automatically mean that it's the end for LFR.

I agree that if/when a 5E living campaign is started, it shouldn't compete with LFR. But the hypothetical 5E living campaign will probably require campaign setting books and other resources that won't be available when 5E is first released.

The release of the epic modules may have to accelerated a bit, but I'm not too concerned.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 9:43AM #22
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Past events would imply that WOTC sees living campaigns which support prior editions as unnecessarily muddying the waters, and to be done away with as quickly as possible.

Living City was pressured into converting to 3e three months after its release (as opposed to the year-long conversion that had been originally planned).  Living Greyhawk was, so my understanding goes, terminated more abruptly than its staff would have preferred.

Personally, I consider that shortsighted.  I've always thought that one of the primary reasons for LG's success was that it was given time to grow.  LG was launched during a huge boom in LC play, and was given at least a year in which it did not have to be the primary play focus for campaign play. 

LFR, in contrast, was crippled by being forced to bear the entire weight of RPGA play from its inception, something from which I don't think it's ever recovered.  With there being no real tentpole campaign right now, that raises some significant barriers to any further living campaigns.

That's a discussion for another thread, however.

While the question, of course, is what all of this means for the campaign, it would surprise me if the answer was anything other than: Campaign staff haven't been told anything; the official line is that WOTC is not announcing any official release dates or even what is going to be released; and LFR is so far down the priority list that no decisions have been made, and aren't likely even to be contemplated until early 2013.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 9:52AM #23
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Jan 9, 2012 -- 9:43AM, bgibbons wrote:

Past events would imply that WOTC sees living campaigns which support prior editions as unnecessarily muddying the waters, and to be done away with as quickly as possible.

Living City was pressured into converting to 3e three months after its release (as opposed to the year-long conversion that had been originally planned).  Living Greyhawk was, so my understanding goes, terminated more abruptly than its staff would have preferred.

Personally, I consider that shortsighted.  I've always thought that one of the primary reasons for LG's success was that it was given time to grow.  LG was launched during a huge boom in LC play, and was given at least a year in which it did not have to be the primary play focus for campaign play. 

LFR, in contrast, was crippled by being forced to bear the entire weight of RPGA play from its inception, something from which I don't think it's ever recovered.  With there being no real tentpole campaign right now, that raises some significant barriers to any further living campaigns.

That's a discussion for another thread, however.

While the question, of course, is what all of this means for the campaign, it would surprise me if the answer was anything other than: Campaign staff haven't been told anything; the official line is that WOTC is not announcing any official release dates or even what is going to be released; and LFR is so far down the priority list that no decisions have been made, and aren't likely even to be contemplated until early 2013.



I can tell you this: While I had a small hint of the upcoming announcement, it wasn't anything verifiable, and it wasn't in any way related to LFR. My guess is that the Writing Directors were for the most part just as in the dark as everyone else (they were for Living Greyhawk). The Global admins might have known, but who knows.

As for its impact on the campaign, I'm still writing. I plan to still be writing until people tell me to stop. And nobody's told me to stop thinking about what might happen in Netheril in 2013.

In news on "how important is LFR to WotC", take a look at the DDXP page on the WotC site. Read the LFR section. That'll give you an idea of how much they know about what's going on with LFR

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 10:10AM #24
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Jan 9, 2012 -- 9:43AM, bgibbons wrote:


While the question, of course, is what all of this means for the campaign, it would surprise me if the answer was anything other than: Campaign staff haven't been told anything; the official line is that WOTC is not announcing any official release dates or even what is going to be released; and LFR is so far down the priority list that no decisions have been made, and aren't likely even to be contemplated until early 2013.




Then you should be surprised. The Globals are in the loop even if we are not currently at liberty to share. We are making plans and will happily let you know the second we are given the go ahead.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 10:14AM #25
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Jan 9, 2012 -- 10:10AM, Skerrit wrote:

Then you should be surprised. The Globals are in the loop even if we are not currently at liberty to share. We are making plans and will happily let you know the second we are given the go ahead.




Excellent. That is good news.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 12:39PM #26
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Relevant to our interests, from an article on ENWorld:


The Forgotten Realms will be supported from the start, and a video game art studio from China has been hired to fully detail the Realms. I asked if going forward support would be continued for the current time after the Spellplague and the Neverwinter Campaign. A WotC spokesperson answered, "The Forgotten Realms has a rich history and we will support all of it. It is for the gamers to decide which time they would enjoy playing in." That would allow Wizards to take advantage of a massive back catalog of products; however, there are no current plans that we know of for other settings - we assume these will follow in later years.


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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 2:25PM #27
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I was amazingly fortunate to be part of the group Critical Hits described (and LFR was represented there as well). Wizards has done a good job even at this early stage of communicating with folks who can provide valuable feedback about organized play and D&D Next. It is clear they intend for that communication to continue.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 10, 2012 - 12:42AM #28
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I hope that when they set up FR for DnD2k, they are willing to allow some of the LFR admins (WDs, specifically), to join in filling in the setting... I have loads of ideas.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 10, 2012 - 1:42AM #29
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Jan 9, 2012 -- 9:52AM, JohnduBois wrote:


In news on "how important is LFR to WotC", take a look at the DDXP page on the WotC site. Read the LFR section. That'll give you an idea of how much they know about what's going on with LFR




I thought this was darkly humorous as well.



Living Forgotten Realms: D&D Experience features the LFR Special (SPEC4-1 Cerulean Dreams) and the third 4th Edition running of the Battle Interactive (ADCP3-1 Swarm of Chaos).


www.wizards.com/dnd/Feature.aspx?x=dnd/f...




Swarm of Chaos? Really?


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1 year ago  ::  Jan 10, 2012 - 7:56AM #30
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No, not really. Someone cut and paste from last year.


ADCP4-1 City of Destinies: The city of Myth Nantar is the center of the sea elves' society. Although it once rested entirely beneath the waves of the Sea of Fallen Stars, the changes wrought by the Spellplague exposed Myth Nantar's upper levels to the air. Now the sea elves and the surface races mingle and trade freely here, protected  from their enemies by ancient elven high magic. Thanks to the mythal, the citizens of Myth Nantar need not fear the threat of the Abolethic Sovereignty. Or so they believe. A TWO-ROUND continuous-play Living Forgotten Realms Battle Interactive for characters of the Heroic and Paragon tiers (levels 1-20). This adventure lasts for 10 hours of real time, including breaks, from start to finish.  Please make sure you schedule enough time to stay for the entire event.  It is recommended (but not required) that you play SPEC4-1 or SPEC4-2, as appropriate for your character level, before playing this adventure. This adventure is combat-intensive and the battles are designed to be more difficult than those in a standard LFR adventure. You will need good resource management, strong teamwork, and a bit of luck to succeed. Slots (6&7, 9&10)

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