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Thanks for the answers. It's painful to lose something so relevant, but I can find plenty of other valuable uses for the feat slot. I'll just have to swap it out for something legal.

 

Dec 12, 2011 -- 6:33AM, Mommy_was_an_Orc wrote:

Dec 12, 2011 -- 12:32AM, Istaran wrote:

So, is Sea Domain available in LFR? If so, what god(s) can I chose for a divine character with Sea Domain?

There is a changeling feat that lets you take domain feats for any domain - Fickle Servant. But that's the only legal option.

The character is human and I'm not keen on restarting (though I've just played one mod, so it's not too terrible if I do). Thanks for pointing out the openning though.

So here's my take on this: This is a far too legalistic interpretation for this campaign. I would say if you want the sea domain, you could pick Valkur or Istishia and that's that, because it just makes sense. You aren't hurting the campaign by having a sea cleric.


Here's something a bit more controversial: I'm almost positive Umberlee (who is indeed chaotic evil) has some unaligned followers..or rather suspicious sailors and sea-travellers- as worshippers. I'm pretty sure this was explicitly stated in the AD&D Forgotten Realms Adventures (Jeff Grubb) and in other places. There are temple complexes dedicated to Umberlee operating in Waterdeep and Baldur's Gate based on the idea that the goddess might be an unpredictable and even maleficient force of nature, but respecting her (espcially if you are a sailor)  isn't the wrong thing to do. Nor is it evil. Nor is the cleric necessarily evil (I mean, maybe he is, but maybe he isn't).

Side note: I'm pretty sure I also remember Loviatar mentioned in Forgotten Realms Adventures as having a few good and neutral aligned followers and clergy as well.


I'm obviously I'm not the guy who makes the rules, but if it does turn out to be that "Well, Valkur, only gets domain X and Y but but not Z because technically he's an exarch of Tempus.." then we might be doing this whole thing wrong.

Dec 15, 2011 -- 5:20AM, Peter_Seckler wrote:

Side note: I'm pretty sure I also remember Loviatar mentioned in Forgotten Realms Adventures as having a few good and neutral aligned followers and clergy as well.

Yes, but those are still NPCs...
Personally I think that we should stick to the rules as long as those are in place. They are there to make things manageable. If that emans there is no Sea domain god, then that is a downside, but it is still manageable.
It is not as if the campaign collapses becauseone  cannot take the  Sea domain for a PC.
I feel some people get too melodramatic over not having all the cool options they want.
Calling for breaking the rules is not really proper and (imo) an overreaction to a very minor issue.

Gomez

Dec 15, 2011 -- 7:08AM, Pauper wrote:

Perhaps it would be better to say that these kinds of benefits (rewards from evil gods, stuff from BoVD, etc.) is only available via story award or similar in-game item.

Story awards have always been exceptions, and I would not be surprised to see access to some elements from BovD through awards.

Gomez

Dec 15, 2011 -- 10:13AM, Dielzen wrote:

I'm not sure why Power of Sea isn't available.

Power of Sea is usable by Melora, Silvanus is the Melora equivalent, and the CCG says (emphasis mine)

"Many of the player resources listed in Table 1 refer to the core rules pantheon. Elements such as feats and magic items appearing in these sourcebooks can be converted to their LFR equivalents and are thereby made legal for play. Use the Realms-equivalent deity on Table 2 for any rule that specifies a core rules deity."

Page 24, paragraph 2.

Saying that you can't have Power of Sea sounds like some sort of ruleslawyering wordsmithing and against the intent of the rules laid out on page 24, to me.

I expect it is because Sea Domain does not specify Melora,
rather Melora specifies the Sea Domain, therefore the feat
rule regarding the Sea Domain does not specify any deity.

Otherwise all the core equivalents would have all domains
of their own plus equivalent; e.g. Tempus = Tempus+Kord.
This would result in the deities having five or six domains.