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6 months ago ::
Jan 02, 2013 - 11:53AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 22, 2008
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I finally have tried my hand at making some cards in the old style for Shapeways ships. My first Shapeways model was the Java, so I have started there. I used a Jamaica card as a starting point. Since the Team Poseidon cards are the closest we have to an official card, I've used those stats and SA for now (and as Ent pointed out, they are good, the only change I considered was making the "Lead the Attack" SA based on the presence of transports or landing craft since the Java spent most of its short WW2 carrier as an escort). The actual card appears as a PNG in my photo gallery (under the Polish, Dutch, Greek gallery) and can be retrieved at 100 percent size if you click on the card and print it off at 100 percent. 
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6 months ago ::
Jan 02, 2013 - 12:03PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 22, 2008
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Here is a second card, the U.S. DD Gwin (433). This one is based on a USS Bagley card with stats and SAs coming from TP. In both this and the last card, I have changed the profile and the ship art. These are a bit more challenging then my usual sister ship cards. Fortunately, in the case of the Gwin, now that I have this card, it will be easy to generate sister cards for the Benson & Gleaves ships, perhaps with a few differences in the SAs. I kept the stats for torpedoes as shown on the TP card but note that most U.S. DDs have 2/2/-, not 2/2/1 for a single set of 5 tubes. I'll have to modify the profile for ships from DD 453 on, these ships had fewer guns and more torpedoes. Always tricky with U.S. torpedoes because any early war scenario would technically favor an SA that weakened torpedoes as on the Bagley card (Defective Torpedoes). 
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6 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 8:51PM
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Very nice! If you were looking for some ideas for a more historical Shinano, here's what I was planning to do with mine... you're more than welcome to use them, or you can use TP's or make up your own.
Guns would be the same as TP's card with 8AA, 25 Points, Cap 2, Armor 6, Vital 12, 6 hull points
TD1, Armored Flight Deck, Replenish Aircraft 3 (which would be a slight retooled version of Replenish Aircraft to allow it to be used thrice per game)
Some cards I was looking to convert from tp off the top of my head were Emden, USS South Dakota, USS Ranger and the Late 298, and the Seafire if you needed any ideas
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6 months ago ::
Jan 07, 2013 - 10:37PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 22, 2008
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The Shinano. I'll see what I can come up with in terms of art.
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6 months ago ::
Jan 09, 2013 - 5:57AM
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TYeah, as always the cards look great and any time I can play a named ship rather than a duplicate card as proxy makes me feel warm an fuzzy.
Yes I to am chomping at the bit for a Shinano card and Enabrantains version of the stats are, to me, about the closest we can get to her operational functionality vs her design potential and physical limitations.
GW
Your Avalon Hill VCL 
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6 months ago ::
Jan 10, 2013 - 5:18PM
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I'm just about done working on my next set's list. About 35 units, most are u/c, though, and from Set 3. Found out the Gromkyi's Gnevnyi Class is quite similar to the preceeding Soobrazitelny Class, the Greeks had 4 Flower class Corvettes, the Italians operated S-Boats, and the Milan's Aigle Class is basically the same design as the preceeding Guepard Class. I'll start working on the cards as soon as I finish the list and figure out all the SA's. Ant if you're making that Shinano LMK and I'll skip it ;-)
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6 months ago ::
Jan 11, 2013 - 6:40PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 22, 2008
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Here is a Shinano card in the old style, a collaborative effort with Enabrantain supplying the SAs with my art work. The stats match the Team Poseidon's. Both the profile and ship art are original. Finding images of the Shinano was a bit tricky. There are not many photos to work with. The image I ended up working with is derived from a photo of a model of the Shinano. The only thing I was a bit hesitant on with the SAs was the Replenish Aircraft 3 vs. 1 for the TP card (assuming I interpreted Ent's suggestion correctly). Lets see if there are any responses from the community on that. Sounds there is already one member that approves. The PNG file is parked in the JPN aircraft carriers gallery on my profile. South Dakota could be next on the list. That one already has a profile at least. Ent, I see that you are posting cards over on forumini. I guess it is about time I started introducing my cards on that forum. Perhaps these last few are good ones to start with. Incidently, for lack of better, I have put an "As/En" in the lower right for cards where you supplied the SAs or stats. The USS Johnston would be 1. 
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6 months ago ::
Jan 12, 2013 - 8:34AM
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it's beautiful! I had her figured for cap 2 but I can always fudge out the third aircraft symbol for my own card.
Yup, I've been posting my newest cards on Forumini and Seasablaze. Although I wish I could just post them here TBH. Linking them from here I think requires that the person looking at it have a WotC account. So I ended up having to put the cards on my old Xanga account and link from there. Major pain in the backside. My hope was that people would track them back to the source and it would bring some attention back to other sites...
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6 months ago ::
Jan 14, 2013 - 12:47PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 22, 2008
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Once I get a moment to work with the card, it will take be about 2 minutes to modify the cap and repost the card so you wont have to fudge. I think I just missed the cap (perhaps TP's card had Cap 3, I was intending to follow your suggestion). Was replemishment still 3? I guess when I saw the replemishment 3 I just assumed the cap was 3. I haven't posted the card anywhere else yet so still time to straighten out.
I'm still trying to get an account with Photobucket. That would probably be the easiest way to post cards in mass so that folks can follow the link. Moving them will be a pain enough but at the moment, some quark in Photobucket will not allow me to sign up. I can't seem to pass their "I am not a Robot" test.
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6 months ago ::
Jan 14, 2013 - 2:25PM
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Once I get a moment to work with the card, it will take be about 2 minutes to modify the cap and repost the card so you wont have to fudge. I think I just missed the cap (perhaps TP's card had Cap 3, I was intending to follow your suggestion). Was replemishment still 3? I guess when I saw the replemishment 3 I just assumed the cap was 3. I haven't posted the card anywhere else yet so still time to straighten out.
I'm still trying to get an account with Photobucket. That would probably be the easiest way to post cards in mass so that folks can follow the link. Moving them will be a pain enough but at the moment, some quark in Photobucket will not allow me to sign up. I can't seem to pass their "I am not a Robot" test.
Well, if you want to know my reasoning, Shinano was supposed to operate 50 aircraft and then carry about 70 replenishment aircraft. I just realized why you're concerned with her basing capacity being 3. If you use replenish aircraft thrice in the same turn and she only has 2 carrier slots... Would is be possible to add a line to the end of the SA that says you can only replenish a squadron once per turn?
I'm pretty sure Forumini's cap 3 stems from the belief that if you use replenish aircraft then that carrier must have an empty slot since it happens at the start of the Air Return phase. I really don't read it that way, though. In my eyes one of the squadrons based on Shinano would simple get bumped back to the land-airbase to make room, since it is the air return phase. That squadrom can't land on the carrier because the flight crews are preparing the replacement aircraft for flight, so it would be forced to land elsewhere. Then the replacement squadron can fly off next airphase and land on another carrier. Hopefully I'm making sense here.
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