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2 years ago ::
Jul 09, 2008 - 3:57PM
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The guys over at the forumini were wondering about OS 4...
We know that the rules prevent (in the air) multiple attacks being made in the same phase, as was clarified with the Barracuda. However, it says nothing about making an air defense attack, and then making an air attack. I know that this wouldn't matter if you were strafing (b/c you can't make an AA attack while strafing), but do the rules say that you can't make an AA attack then a torpedo run?
I think that they don't, although I'm pretty sure that you guys didn't mean for it to be able to make both attacks.
Help?
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2 years ago ::
Jul 10, 2008 - 8:52AM
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The rules don't state it anywhere because no Set 1 aircraft with torpedoes also has AA capability. The BF will be treated the same as other dual-role aircraft -- it can fight air-to-air or air-to-surface but not both.
Steve
This writing business. Pencils and what-not. Over-rated if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it. --Eeyore
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2 years ago ::
Jul 10, 2008 - 9:35PM
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Thanks again for the quick answer. I really appreciate you answering these questions before the set actually releases. I saves a lot of wasted 'energy' on the discussion boards! 
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2 years ago ::
Jul 29, 2008 - 8:18PM
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Additional question on Barracuda's SA Determined Attack. Scenario - Barracuda occupying sector with enemy ship and sub. Ship's AA aborts Barracuda's attack, however, succeeds on Determined Attack roll.
Can the Barracuda make an ASW attack against the sub (with -1 on each attack die)?
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2 years ago ::
Jul 30, 2008 - 11:05AM
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"Press the Attack" specifically limits attacks to Bombs and Torpedoes.
Steve
This writing business. Pencils and what-not. Over-rated if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it. --Eeyore
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2 years ago ::
Jul 30, 2008 - 7:53PM
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The rules don't state it anywhere because no Set 1 aircraft with torpedoes also has AA capability. The BF will be treated the same as other dual-role aircraft -- it can fight air-to-air or air-to-surface but not both.
Steve
Steve,
There still seems to be some confusion about how the Beaufighter's many attacks work, so could please you confirm that
1. The Beaufighter gets one and only one attack (either AA or Gunnery or torpedoes) every turn.
2. It cannot combine Gunnery and torpedoes during the air-attack step.
3. A fighter launching torpedoes is not making a strafing attack.
Thanks in advance.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 31, 2008 - 11:00AM
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Correct on all three counts.
Steve
This writing business. Pencils and what-not. Over-rated if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it. --Eeyore
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2 years ago ::
Jul 31, 2008 - 1:19PM
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Correct on all three counts.
Steve
Thanks, Steve. Now I can rinse out another teacup and get ready for the next tempest.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 03, 2008 - 4:27PM
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I really thought your last answer would have driven a stake through the heart of this monster, but no such luck, I'm afraid. Someone has pointed out that there is nothing in the clarifications (it wouldn't be in the rulebook because it pertains to strafing) that specifically says an aircraft can't both use its AA value in the Air Defense step and its Gunnery value to strafe during the Air Attack step. I looked and he's right. Can we get what I sincerely hope will be the final word on this?
Thanks in advance.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 05, 2008 - 2:30PM
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It's been my understanding that this is the case, based on
- the language used in the Clarifications doc under Air Attack Phase ("When you place an Aircraft in the Air Mission phase, you must announce whether it is Strafing"),
- on the basic instructional philosophy behind the rules, which is "if the rules don't state you can do it, then you can't,"
- on the fact that no unit attacks in more than one phase per turn unless a special ability allows it to do so,
- and most importantly, on the discussion I had with Mons this morning in which he confirmed that this is the way it's intended to be played -- once an aircraft uses one type of attack, it can't make a different type of attack later in that same turn (special abilities, as always, being possible exceptions).
Please note -- This was not always the case. Early in this game's life, I ruled that planes could attack in the AA phase and strafe in the air-to-surface phase. That ruling was in error, however, and the change was (we thought) cemented with the release of the Rules Clarifications. If that doc gets updated, we may alter the wording slightly to remove any possibility of misinterpretation. Steve
This writing business. Pencils and what-not. Over-rated if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it. --Eeyore
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