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Mar 7, 2013 -- 11:01AM, Maxperson wrote:

Mar 7, 2013 -- 10:56AM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

Trying to give feedback so 5E doesn't turn out as crap is a "crusade"?

That statement runs in direct opposition to your earlier statement.  You said earlier you don't have faith in 5e or the design team.   You can't believe that your feedback will aid 5e in not turning out as crap and have a lack of faith in 5e and the design team.  They are mutually exclusive beliefs.  Either the design team is listening and changing things based on our feedback, in which case they are worthy of having our faith in their ability, or they are not, in which case there is no point in complaining and/or giving feedback.

Which is it?  Do you have faith in them to listen to your feedback and change things or not?

I don't have faith in my doctors education, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to see him. It means I'm going to show him the studies that have been done on vitamin and mineral supplements that show they are more effective than prescription medications, and eventually my doctor comes around and tells me I should use the supplements before going on the medications. Just like pointing out the flaws of the game might make Mearls and co. fix the flaws and make a better game regardless of whether we have confidence in them or not...

Mar 7, 2013 -- 4:06PM, Uchawi wrote:

Physical damage or otherwise, the fighter should recover hit points faster than a wizard, versus an equal rate, just because combat is the fighters things

I tend to agree - at the very least, it'd make a good feature or option or something.  Could be something as simple as "When you gain hit points / take a rest / take an extended rest / spend a Hit Die / whatever, roll your Skill Die and add the result to the amount of hit points you gain."

Mar 7, 2013 -- 6:55PM, Bud_the_CHUD wrote:

The thing with the whole "Wizards and Fighters reagain HP at different rates" deal reminds me of 4e and their healing surges.  With that, everyone regained equiviliant HP so you avoided the whole "Wounded Wizard regained full HP, Wounded Fighter is still at 1/3rd HP" deal.  Which leads to the whole "this is a problem that 4e solved, but the Next team is trying hard to ignoring it and doing their own thing, which is often inferior to the 4e solution."

Yeah. I mean, like, I don't understand why proportional healing across the board isn't just the clear way to go. Even above and beyond the whole "making sense" thing, it has other benefits, like making it actually better for the party if the beefy guy takes a hit, rather than the fragile wizard, which seems like a nice, natural way to reward coordination and teamwork.

Mar 7, 2013 -- 10:29AM, Gwathir wrote:

Mar 7, 2013 -- 10:18AM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

You know people, a lot of us don't have faith In 5E or the design team behind it. When you make arguments that include faith in 5E as a necessary premise, your argument means almost nothing to those of us who don't share that faith. Do you have anything to add that doesn't rest on faith?

You are exagerating... Some of you don't have faith in 5E or the design team behind it.

I have faith as do most of us... that's why were here playtesting.

If D&D is so terrible why do you play it all the time?

Faith can move mountains.  Too bad it can't seem to make a decent RPG.