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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 6:01PM #11
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 4:52PM, grehnhewe wrote:

Mar 6, 2013 -- 2:25PM, bone_naga wrote:

Mar 6, 2013 -- 1:04PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

When Dr. Douglas Brown, a radiologist in Orem, Utah, noticed an uptick recently in the number of barefoot runners he was seeing with heel and foot problems, he wondered if there might be a connection between their unshod training and their sore feet. But he couldn’t find any scientific studies that had examined the issue.


Are Utah doctors mentally retarded? It would be a tremendous waste of money to conduct a study that found that not wearing shoes and running as if you were, that is landing with a heel strike, results in heel injuries. 

Seriously, if you are going to run, barefoot, minimalist shoes, or regular shoes, you should work on your form to help minimize and avoid injuries.  



No kidding. You can look up proper running form on youtube. Besides which, I believe that there are in fact studies that have been conducted. It's not exactly rocket science.


I cannot agree with you both more..  I am really into running, in particular over the last year.  I run more on the sides of my feet in light shoes a step up from barefoot simulators like some toe shoes.  I never have sore feet or knees...maybe occasionally tight quads after a real long run.  How much you guys run?  Doing my first full Marathon in May.



I'm not into running long distance. I prefer doing sprints. I have been thinking of doing long run, but I've been busy with work and school. I don't have time to train for long runs. 

I do remember BN saying he had done 18 mikes when he first got his Skeletoes, and I told him it was way too much way too quickly. Fortunately BN seems to have a good running form.  

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 6:10PM #12
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 6:01PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Mar 6, 2013 -- 4:52PM, grehnhewe wrote:

Mar 6, 2013 -- 2:25PM, bone_naga wrote:

Mar 6, 2013 -- 1:04PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

When Dr. Douglas Brown, a radiologist in Orem, Utah, noticed an uptick recently in the number of barefoot runners he was seeing with heel and foot problems, he wondered if there might be a connection between their unshod training and their sore feet. But he couldn’t find any scientific studies that had examined the issue.


Are Utah doctors mentally retarded? It would be a tremendous waste of money to conduct a study that found that not wearing shoes and running as if you were, that is landing with a heel strike, results in heel injuries. 

Seriously, if you are going to run, barefoot, minimalist shoes, or regular shoes, you should work on your form to help minimize and avoid injuries.  



No kidding. You can look up proper running form on youtube. Besides which, I believe that there are in fact studies that have been conducted. It's not exactly rocket science.


I cannot agree with you both more..  I am really into running, in particular over the last year.  I run more on the sides of my feet in light shoes a step up from barefoot simulators like some toe shoes.  I never have sore feet or knees...maybe occasionally tight quads after a real long run.  How much you guys run?  Doing my first full Marathon in May.



I'm not into running long distance. I prefer doing sprints. I have been thinking of doing long run, but I've been busy with work and school. I don't have time to train for long runs. 

I do remember BN saying he had done 18 mikes when he first got his Skeletoes, and I told him it was way too much way too quickly. Fortunately BN seems to have a good running form.  


I prefer the longer distances, but yeah they are time consuming.  Once or twice a week I do twenty, but it takes me 3-4 hours...I am not trying to kill myself so I start out walking and walk a little in the middle.  Best thing about running...I eat a lot!

iIt makes me cringe seeing people slamming on their heels.  In no time they will be shaving their legs, donning spandex and riding a road bike.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 7:26PM #13
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 6:10PM, grehnhewe wrote:

iIt makes me cringe seeing people slamming on their heels.  In no time they will be shaving their legs, donning spandex and riding a road bike.



I hate watching heel strikes. It makes me want to pull them aside and go all Jehova's Witness on them preaching about the need to convert to minimalist running.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 7:44PM #14
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 7:26PM, bone_naga wrote:

Mar 6, 2013 -- 6:10PM, grehnhewe wrote:

iIt makes me cringe seeing people slamming on their heels.  In no time they will be shaving their legs, donning spandex and riding a road bike.



I hate watching heel strikes. It makes me want to pull them aside and go all Jehova's Witness on them preaching about the need to convert to minimalist running.


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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 9:17PM #15
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 6:10PM, grehnhewe wrote:

I prefer the longer distances, but yeah they are time consuming.  Once or twice a week I do twenty, but it takes me 3-4 hours...I am not trying to kill myself so I start out walking and walk a little in the middle.  Best thing about running...I eat a lot!

iIt makes me cringe seeing people slamming on their heels.  In no time they will be shaving their legs, donning spandex and riding a road bike.




Mar 6, 2013 -- 7:26PM, bone_naga wrote:

I hate watching heel strikes. It makes me want to pull them aside and go all Jehova's Witness on them preaching about the need to convert to minimalist running.



Yeah, watching a person run and continuously slam their heels makes me cringe as well. I usually get asked about my toe-shoes, which lets me go into minimalist preaching mode. I get asked if the toe shoes are comfortable and if I can run int hem. I tell them yes on both counts, but you have to learn how to properly run and walk. Then I go into the evils of the heel strike. 

On a side note: Once you go with the minimalist shoes, you realize how heavy regular shoes actually are. I love wearing my Vibrams. It really is one of the closest things to walking barefoot. And I love the ground feel I get from them. 

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 10:06PM #16
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 2:27PM #17
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 9:17PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Yeah, watching a person run and continuously slam their heels makes me cringe as well. I usually get asked about my toe-shoes, which lets me go into minimalist preaching mode. I get asked if the toe shoes are comfortable and if I can run int hem. I tell them yes on both counts, but you have to learn how to properly run and walk. Then I go into the evils of the heel strike.



Yeah that's usually my cue as well.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 5:58PM #18
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I am enjoying the discussion on running.  Do you guys bring anything with you like water.  I wear a really small Amphipod, which holds my phone and car key.  It also features a 6 oz. clip on water bottle.  I don't really drink water while I run, but I like to be able to rinse out my mouth or take an occasional sip.  I don't usually listen to music while I run as I do not want to miss the sounds of nature or the cars that are trying to run me over.  Sort of a moot point with Hybrids.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 6:07PM #19
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I take a bottle of water with me while I'm doing sprints. I drink small amounts during my down time. You don't want to drink large quantities of water and then start doing sprints. It generally doesn't end well. Have you tried taking an energy gel with you while you run? They are pretty good. They give you a decent shot of carbs while you're doing your long runs. If you are planning on running your first marathon, you may want to look into them.  
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 6:20PM #20
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Mar 7, 2013 -- 6:07PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

I take a bottle of water with me while I'm doing sprints. I drink small amounts during my down time. You don't want to drink large quantities of water and then start doing sprints. It generally doesn't end well. Have you tried taking an energy gel with you while you run? They are pretty good. They give you a decent shot of carbs while you're doing your long runs. If you are planning on running your first marathon, you may want to look into them.  


yeah, I agree a lot of water is not good during a run.  I might drink more if it were hot and humid, but I am thankful for the very moderate weather I have here.  When running for fun, I usually eat a pretty good meal beforehand, so I don't feel any hunger pangs.  When I have run half-marathons, I guess perhaps I get a little nervous.  I eat beforehand but not a big meal.  I have taken advantage of the gel packs handed out during the race and usually cross the finish pleasantly hungry.

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