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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 10:20PM #71
Weather_Report
Date Joined: Feb 25, 2013
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Mar 7, 2013 -- 6:42PM, Alter_Boy wrote:

4ed's Page 42.





Ah, yes, the table of convenient scaling, no thanks, that is one thing we will not see, due to BA, thank god.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 1:12AM #72
Chakravant
Date Joined: Jan 9, 2012
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Player's Option:Skills & Powers style Character Creation rules.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 1:18AM #73
LordofKhyber
Date Joined: Jul 29, 2009
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2E: Dark Sun
3E: Eberron
4E: Warlord 
Things that 5E needs to do:
-Make the use of battlemaps/miniatures the default.
-Make healing fun, magical AND non-magical needs to be an option. Long live the Warlord!
-Make magic items feel magic/mythical. I don't want a dagger +1, I want STING.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 1:20AM #74
Shasarak
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Fighters: Using socks to kill monsters since 2012

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 1:27AM #75
Zardnaar
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+1 for spelljammer and Darksun.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*

*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 5:10AM #76
Rastapopoulos
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On a second thought... the thing I'd like to bring back above anything else in 5ed... is the artwork of Brom and Larry Elmore.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 9:05AM #77
dmgorgon
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I would bring back the clean and well organized layout of the 2e players handbook (original printing).
 
3 column format, no needless textures and visual garbage, spells organized by level and name, perfect size font, etc...

 
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 9:33AM #78
RedSiegfried
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Mar 8, 2013 -- 9:05AM, dmgorgon wrote:

I would bring back the clean and well organized layout of the 2e players handbook (original printing).
 
3 column format, no needless textures and visual garbage, spells organized by level and name, perfect size font, etc...

 


As long as the books don't fall apart within weeks of purchasing them, like the 2e books did, then yes, definitely yes.  Just because something is a fantasy-based doesn't mean it shouldn't be clear and easy to read.

OD&D, 1E and 2E challenged the player. 
3E challenged the character, not the player. 
Now 4E takes it a step further by challenging a GROUP OF PLAYERS to work together as a TEAM. 
That's why I love 4E.

"Your ability to summon a horde of celestial superbeings at will is making my ... BMX skills look a bit redundant."
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 9:48AM #79
Quasadu
Date Joined: May 24, 2012
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Mar 8, 2013 -- 9:05AM, dmgorgon wrote:

I would bring back the clean and well organized layout of the 2e players handbook (original printing).
 
3 column format, no needless textures and visual garbage, spells organized by level and name, perfect size font, etc...

 




Yeah I'm with you on this.

Even more, the Monstrous Compendium layout for the monsters. Nice and neat, full page spread with an illustration for each creature.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 08, 2013 - 10:03AM #80
RedSiegfried
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Mar 8, 2013 -- 9:48AM, Quasadu wrote:

Mar 8, 2013 -- 9:05AM, dmgorgon wrote:

I would bring back the clean and well organized layout of the 2e players handbook (original printing).
 
3 column format, no needless textures and visual garbage, spells organized by level and name, perfect size font, etc...

 




Yeah I'm with you on this.

Even more, the Monstrous Compendium layout for the monsters. Nice and neat, full page spread with an illustration for each creature.


Minus the easily damaged three-hole punched sheets!  In other words, like the Monstrous Manual.  (And to tell the truth I really didn't like most of the illustrations, but I did like the fact that each monster had one.)

OD&D, 1E and 2E challenged the player. 
3E challenged the character, not the player. 
Now 4E takes it a step further by challenging a GROUP OF PLAYERS to work together as a TEAM. 
That's why I love 4E.

"Your ability to summon a horde of celestial superbeings at will is making my ... BMX skills look a bit redundant."
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