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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 12:18PM #1
pinkisthenewred
Date Joined: Jan 1, 2013
Posts: 548
Hey.

Here's the latest build i made. I tried to optimize around the Firewind Blade, so i tried to stack as many vulnerabilities as possible to double tap 'em. In addition i abuse 2 more of the rare damage boosts, that apply to everything: Radiant One + Pelor's boon, which get double tapped as well. 

So, after all, Firewind Blade's property adds 15 (elemental pact boon) + 10 (Morninglord) + 9 (Pelor's Boon) + 5 (Radiant One) + 1 + 6 = 46 dmg compared to a normal +6 magic weapon. That's like a permanent +46 damage modifier that applies to everything.

There are variants which go MC Barbarian for Strength of Enduring Pain Power Swap, which works perfectly together with Warlock's Destiny Inversion. It has a big downside tho, since it doesn't apply to BB. This variant also picks Frost Cheese and Reincarnate Champion with Tiefling Soul for the one feat that adds and additional vulnerability. This way you can add a Feyrace as well and pick Sarifal Feywarden, so you would be Feyrace + Tiefling + Genasi in the end. Plus you can add the Revenant +2 to hit feat, since you don't have to worship Amaunator anymore. Dex would be your secondary ability and you could even pick second skin as a pretty strong defensive feat. All in all the original version should be the strongest, tho, cause Morninglord alone means 19 static damage mod that applies to all. Being someone who has up to 9 attacks per round, you know what time it is.
    
In my build i chose Avenger as MC, which is super strong AND even if you want to miss for BR but hit accidently, you're allowed to reroll as well. If u are allowed to pick BCL per MC, you could go this way. But it doesn't hurt too much to go Avenger MC since Int is our secondary ability anyway, so your AC is OK. Elven Chain Shirt is mandatory, tho.

Battle Harness is mandatory as well, since we will start the fight without our FWB drawn. First hit of BB bare handed, then use the Harness' property. This build doesn't have the luxury of a reliable Earth Shock, that the Blender has, so i had to find other possibilities for missing. One i mentioned above, the others are attacking with my off-hand weapon and Armor of Summer's Glory and Menacing Shadow. The latter two will grant me misses for a whole fight each. If u think that he doesn't have enough options to miss, and if you have an idea, how to fix it, please tell me.

The rest of my power selection is pretty much based on filling gaps the build has, since he already deals godlike damage. If you're missing some good power, that would really fit him well, please tell me.


The feats are not in the most optimized order yet.   



Oh, and i miss a CA Feat, yet. Don't know which to pick, but remember that we get CA after the second hit of BB. If u have any tipps, please tell me.
    


====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Atavian, level 30 Revenant, Battlemind/Warlock, Morninglord, Radiant One
Eldritch Strike Option: Eldritch Strike Constitution
Eldritch Pact (Hybrid) Option: Infernal Pact (Hybrid)
Hybrid Warlock Option: Hybrid Warlock Will
Versatile Expertise Option: Versatile Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Versatile Expertise Option: Versatile Expertise (Holy Symbol)
Psionic Augmentation (Hybrid) Option: Hybrid Power Point Option
Hybrid Talent Option: Prime Shot
Extra Manifestation Option: Stormsoul
Choose your Race in Life: Genasi
Associate: Storm Talon
Spellscarred
Chessenta (Chessenta Benefit)
Theme: Werebear  
FINAL ABILITY SCORES STR 10, CON 28, DEX 14, INT 20, WIS 14, CHA 14   STARTING ABILITY SCORES STR 8, CON 18, DEX 10, INT 12, WIS 12, CHA 12     AC: 43 Fort: 44 Ref: 39 Will: 42 HP: 186 Surges: 16 Surge Value: 46  

TRAINED SKILLS Arcana +25, Athletics +20, Endurance +33, Religion +25   UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +17, Bluff +17, Diplomacy +17, Dungeoneering +17, Heal +17, History +20, Insight +17, Intimidate +21, Nature +17, Perception +17, Stealth +17, Streetwise +17, Thievery +17  

POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Werebear Utility: Bear Shape
Revenant Utility: Dark Reaping
Battlemind Feature: Battlemind's Demand
Battlemind Feature: Blurred Step
Warlock's Curse  Power: Warlock's Curse
Genasi Racial Power: Promise of Storm
Avenger Feature: Oath of Enmity
Warlock Attack 1: Eldritch Strike
Battlemind Utility 2: Concussive Response
Warlock Utility 6: Unspeakable Bond
Battlemind Attack 7: Forceful Reversal
Battlemind Utility 10: Hands of the Titan
Morninglord Attack 11: Pure Glow
Morninglord Utility 12: Rising Sun
Battlemind Attack 13: Brutal Barrage
Warlock Attack 15: Menacing Shadow
Warlock Attack 15: Armor of Summer's Glory
Warlock Utility 16: Diabolic Escape
Warlock Utility 16: Offering of Blood
Morninglord Attack 20: Lance of Dawn
Battlemind Attack 25: Vitality Theft
Radiant One Utility 26: Star Flesh
Battlemind Attack 27: Brilliant Recovery  

FEATS
Level 1: Versatile Expertise
Level 2: Extra Manifestation
Level 4: Improved Defenses
Level 8: Hybrid Talent
Level 11: Disciple of Divine Wrath
Level 12: Shocking Flame
Level 14: Prime Punisher
Level 16: Primed Curse
Level 18: Called Shot
Level 20: Lightning Soul
Level 21: Born of the Elements
Level 21: Superior Initiative
Level 22: Elemental Companion
Level 22: Warding Curse
Level 24: Death's Quickening
Level 26: Ghostly Vitality
Level 28: Headsman's Chop
Level 30: Epic Will  

ITEMS
Elven Chain Shirt (epic tier) Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 3) Accurate symbol of Victory +6 x1 Belt of Sonnlinor Righteousness (epic tier) x1 Life Charm +6 x1 Iron Armbands of Power (epic tier) x1 Circlet of Arkhosia (epic tier) x1 Ring of Free Time x1 Ring of Mental Power x1 Claw Gloves x1 Siberys Shard of Radiance (epic tier) Tattoo of Vengeance (epic tier) x1 Prime Shot Handaxe +5 x1 Firewind Blade Longsword +6 x1 Battle Harness Drake Leather Armor +6 x1 Zephyr Boots x1

====== End ======









PS: I really had some trouble copy/pasting this from the CB. Does anyone know why? I didn't have this problems, when i posted some build early on.        

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 12:30PM #2
Jugulator007
Date Joined: Nov 16, 2010
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Hey guys look, a BB build that uses morninglord and RO.  Totally new idea.

Edit: Are you sure you can afford all those items?  Also, other than shocking flame, how are you dealing fire damage to proc firewind?
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 12:34PM #3
pinkisthenewred
Date Joined: Jan 1, 2013
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I haven't seen a thread for this kind of build, yet, so i posted it. If there already were 23435 builds like this on this board, i wouldn't have posted it. 
   
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 12:39PM #4
Zathris
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2009
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Mar 2, 2013 -- 12:34PM, pinkisthenewred wrote:

I haven't seen a thread for this kind of build, yet, so i posted it. If there already were 23435 builds like this on this board, i wouldn't have posted it. 
   



Yes you would have, because you think all of your ideas are so terribly creative despite all of them resulting from answers provided in your SQSA spamming.

A build doesn't need it's own thread to have been posted and be common knowledge. Learning how to use search functions saves everyone time.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 12:46PM #5
pinkisthenewred
Date Joined: Jan 1, 2013
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Seriously i don't get you people. Fix your egos please...
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 12:50PM #6
Zathris
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2009
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@Jugg: You forgot: "Oh look, a Revenant that's cheating to gain actions and then intentionally missing for Brilliant Recovery"

@Pink: No, reposting Blender with Elemental Pact and Claw Gloves isn't new and exciting. Also, I'm better than you, of course I have an ego

Edit: Oh, and just to be constructive - You don't have Elemental Pact, not sure why you're adding the boon's effect, you need to spend the feat on Twofold. Extra Manifestation by itself doesn't work, I don't care what people like mellored say, you can't do something "instead of" a N/A effect, just like all those Boon feats that don't work well with Hybriding. Prime Shot Weapons bonus only applies to attacks made with it, so it doesn't add to any attacks made with FWB. Radiant One to enable the Vuln requires CA, which you have absolutely no means to self-generate, including Flanking because that turns off your Prime. Claw Gloves require a minor at the beginning of combat to enter your form in order to be active, so you'll need to account for that in any KPR/Nova calcs you do.
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Harden the Heart, and Improve the Mind;
Born of Blood, but Forged by Fire;
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 1:08PM #7
pinkisthenewred
Date Joined: Jan 1, 2013
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I built this to the best of my knowledge and belief. I'm playing D&D for 4 months now, so i don't have the in-depth knowledge of most of the other users here, yet. I'm posting builds, not to state that i'm super awesome, that may be your incentive, when you do so, but please, don't judge others by your own standards. I'm posting builds cause i want to know, how an experienced optimizer would refine it, or if he would totally reject it and why.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 1:17PM #8
Zathris
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Mar 2, 2013 -- 1:08PM, pinkisthenewred wrote:

I built this to the best of my knowledge and belief. I'm playing D&D for 4 months now, so i don't have the in-depth knowledge of most of the other users here, yet. I'm posting builds, not to state that i'm super awesome, that may be your incentive, when you do so, but please, don't judge others by your own standards. I'm posting builds cause i want to know, how an experienced optimizer would refine it, or if he would totally reject it and why.



Your questions in SQSA come off as "I"m working on a secret project that I'm not going to share until it's ready" because you ask very specific questions without posting anything about the goal you're trying to achieve. And then when you post builds like this, it comes across as "Tada! Look at the amazing build I've made by improperly combining cheese that's existed for a year, aren't I great?" Which to me and others also comes across as "I'm too good to ask questions properly even though I'm new to the game and don't have a strong background in English." Now I can add to my opinion of you that you don't know how to use the Search Function properly.

Tone of posts don't come across very well on the internet, which is why everyone thinks I'm an egomaniacal jerk.

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Harden the Heart, and Improve the Mind;
Born of Blood, but Forged by Fire;
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 1:56PM #9
pinkisthenewred
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Well, you recognized my bad english, so i'll try my best to make myself understood: I don't think you're an egomaniacal jerk, because tone of posts don't come across very well on the internet. I think you're an egomaniacal jerk, cause you like judging people you don't know at all so much. All your "criticism" above is totally unfounded, cause you're simply assuming that your opponent does X because of Y, without asking for once. You get personally offensive nearly every time someone posts something you don't like, which seems to be a lot. Whatever went wrong in your life, get over it, mate, i wish you the best.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 2:26PM #10
Jugulator007
Date Joined: Nov 16, 2010
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The only way we have to judge people in a public forum like this is their posts.  What I would suggest is that you read and lurk a bit before jumping in with "new" builds.  See if it's been done before.  When you decide on a schtick, make sure you have the pieces to make it work, while still maintaining an effective character.  Check the class guides for something similar, check the collections of builds that are around.  Build it out to a few different levels and have people look at it for holes, the tier breaks are good (11, 21, 30).  Finally, with your newness, try a "Hey does this work?", or "What do you think of this?" tone, rather than "Look at this!  Amazing!". If you look back a few years ago, you can find posts by zathris, alcestis, erachima, and other long time CO folks where they make newb mistakes as well.  The difference is, they accepted the criticism and used it to improve system mastery, rather than whining that people were being mean to them.
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