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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:08AM
#281
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What gets me about some of those 1e grognards is that most of them are over forty and some over fifty! ... There is no excuse for that behavior from middle age guys.
This 1e grognard agrees with you. 
In memory of wrecan and his Unearthed Wrecana.5e should strongly stay away from "I don't like it, so you can't have it either."
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:09AM
#282
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What gets me about some of those 1e grognards is that most of them are over forty and some over fifty! I can forgive high school and college students for being rude, heck, I was 23 when 2e came out and I was pretty nasty to 1e fans back on the Prodigy forums. But I am 47 now and I know better. There is no excuse for that behavior from middle age guys.
i dont think using the name grognards is helping much but people do what they want, and their love of 1st edition is the same as somes love for religion, ect
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:10AM
#283
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Its true. I have never seen it happen IRL from a 3.5/PF fan, but I have seen it online (a lot) from both sides. My only edition war experience IRL was a 4e fan who was sort of just generally angry that I didn't give 4e more of a chance because "Pathfinder is going to kill D&D, which they just stole anyway".
I'm in a meetup group in raliegh that has about 500 members and I can't go a week without meeting a new person that bashing D&D in general or bash 4e specifically. I pretty much don't even really mention I play D&D that much anymore unless I mention it in a list of all the game systems I play. The only other ice breaker conversation I get is about what I think about the 5e playtest ( because a organize might direct someone interested in it to me since I run bi-weekly session for meetup members).
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Imagine a world where the first-time D&D player rolls stats, picks a race, picks a class, picks an alignment, and buys gear to create a character. Imagine if an experienced player, maybe the person helping our theoretical player learn the ropes, could also make a character by rolling ability scores and picking a race, class, feat, skills, class features, spells or powers, and so on. Those two players used different paths to build characters, but the system design allows them to play at the same table. -Mearl
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:12AM
#284
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No offense intended by grognard. I consider myself one. I started with Holmes.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:17AM
#285
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Date Joined:
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@OP: It was a good thought.
Yeah it's enough to know that I'm not the only one who has noticed the increase in hostility on this board and that I'm not the only one who is taking steps to curb it. Thanks everyone.
Things that 5E needs to do:
-Make the use of battlemaps/miniatures the default.
-Make healing fun, magical AND non-magical needs to be an option. Long live the Warlord!
-Make magic items feel magic/mythical. I don't want a dagger +1, I want STING.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:27AM
#286
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- Forum Guide
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Date Joined:
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No offense intended by grognard. I consider myself one. I started with Holmes.
I always thought grognard was a self-referential name. In the 1980's the guys who regaled us with tales of playing Chainmail proudly called themelves grognards. Is that sort of a "Only we can use that term" kind of thing?
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:29AM
#287
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Hey everyone, I love the idea of trying to minimize the hostility and anger in our community. I think this can be a productive discussion, and don't want to see it go away. However, everyone needs to be careful not to engage in behavior that will cause the very problems being complained about here, or by violating the rules in some other manner. For example: most everyone here should know by now that discussion of moderation is not ever on topic in these forums. If you've got a beef with how moderation is handled, contact us via the help site. A wild link appears: Help SiteFor what it's worth, in my opinion a large part of the hostility issues could be solved by people merely trying hard not to take offense at what others say. When you take offense easily, it ends up starting a sort of feedback loop, where you respond with hostility, and then it escalates. Try asking politely for clarification. If you do find that another user is being truly offensive, report that user, and then put that user on your block list (without discussing either action on the boards ) Furthermore, painting groups with a broad, pejorative brush isn't going to help things, so please try not to make statements like "[edition of choice] Players do/are X" We have lots of great conversations, and Wizards wants to hear what people think of D&D Next, even the people who are unhappy with it. No one single source of feedback is going to rule over all others. Just share your thoughts in as friendly and polite way as possible, engage each other in the same manner, try to avoid feeling like people with different ideas about the game are your adversaries. Only you can prevent forum fires. Thanks, Monica
Monica
Wizards of the Coast Online Community Coordinator
A friendly dragon.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:31AM
#288
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- Forum Guide
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Only you can prevent forum fires.
Ha! nice.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:35AM
#289
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Date Joined:
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Only you can prevent forum fires.
Thanks,
Monica
Althought you did warn about not discussing the mods here, but I am going to break that rule and
say the mods here are awesome. That is the coolest slogan ever.
Best Mod Slogan Ever.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 10:39AM
#290
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Date Joined:
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Hey everyone,
I love the idea of trying to minimize the hostility and anger in our community. I think this can be a productive discussion, and don't want to see it go away.
However, everyone needs to be careful not to engage in behavior that will cause the very problems being complained about here, or by violating the rules in some other manner.
For example: most everyone here should know by now that discussion of moderation is not ever on topic in these forums. If you've got a beef with how moderation is handled, contact us via the help site.
A wild link appears: Help Site
For what it's worth, in my opinion a large part of the hostility issues could be solved by people merely trying hard not to take offense at what others say. When you take offense easily, it ends up starting a sort of feedback loop, where you respond with hostility, and then it escalates. Try asking politely for clarification.
If you do find that another user is being truly offensive, report that user, and then put that user on your block list (without discussing either action on the boards ) Furthermore, painting groups with a broad, pejorative brush isn't going to help things, so please try not to make statements like "[edition of choice] Players do/are X"
We have lots of great conversations, and Wizards wants to hear what people think of D&D Next, even the people who are unhappy with it. No one single source of feedback is going to rule over all others. Just share your thoughts in as friendly and polite way as possible, engage each other in the same manner, try to avoid feeling like people with different ideas about the game are your adversaries.
Only you can prevent forum fires.
Thanks,
Monica
"try to avoid feeling like people with different ideas about the game are your adversaries"
Basically the best tip possible.
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