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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 2:37PM #1
DDFANTIKZZZ
Date Joined: Jun 13, 2011
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I'm starting a new D&D adventure and I was wondering which class offered the best options in terms of dmg dealing when wielding two weapons because I've always wanted to play a two-weapon warrior but I never know which class to pick wether it's whirling slayer, ranger, scout, tempest fighter etc...

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 2:39PM #2
Naflem
Date Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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Ranger. Read the handbook here (wiki): 

community.wizards.com/charop/wiki/Ranger...
 
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 2:55PM #3
erachima
Date Joined: Sep 4, 2010
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Feb 16, 2013 -- 2:37PM, DDFANTIKZZZ wrote:

I'm starting a new D&D adventure and I was wondering which class offered the best options in terms of dmg dealing when wielding two weapons because I've always wanted to play a two-weapon warrior but I never know which class to pick wether it's whirling slayer, ranger, scout, tempest fighter etc...

Thanks in advance  




Ranger|Cleric >= Ranger >= Whirling Barbarian >= Tempest Fighter

Scout is kinda all over the place depending on level range.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 3:00PM #4
aceshigh23
Date Joined: Jan 9, 2010
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Feb 16, 2013 -- 2:55PM, erachima wrote:

Feb 16, 2013 -- 2:37PM, DDFANTIKZZZ wrote:

I'm starting a new D&D adventure and I was wondering which class offered the best options in terms of dmg dealing when wielding two weapons because I've always wanted to play a two-weapon warrior but I never know which class to pick wether it's whirling slayer, ranger, scout, tempest fighter etc...

Thanks in advance  




Ranger|Cleric >= Ranger >= Whirling Barbarian >= Tempest Fighter

Scout is kinda all over the place depending on level range.




Hybrid Ranger|Cleric is more effective at two-weapon fighting than a ranger, or more effective of a class, overall, than a ranger?

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 3:05PM #5
erachima
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Both. It's basically a direct improvement.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 3:11PM #6
Naflem
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I agree with Ranger|Cleric being a better overall character, but in terms of pure damage doesn't a straight Ranger surpass it (even if it isnt worth the loss of the hybrid additions)?
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 3:11PM #7
aceshigh23
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So strength/wisdom build, melee striker + off-leader support with high AC with battle cleric's lore?
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 3:18PM #8
erachima
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Feb 16, 2013 -- 3:11PM, Naflem wrote:

I agree with Ranger|Cleric being a better overall character, but in terms of pure damage doesn't a straight Ranger surpass it (even if it isnt worth the loss of the hybrid additions)?




Nope. The additional support gives you a higher damage cap.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 3:39PM #9
Zhara
Date Joined: Nov 9, 2010
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There's a Cleric l5 daily that gives the target (a weapon, I do believe) +str mod for the rest of the enc. Among other things, clerics can self-buff a lot, and then abuse the crap out of it with twinstrike. 
 
Here's a build I like:

Key features:

Dragonborn
Fighter|Ranger hybrid.
MC whatever. (Master of the Fist is a good one, so is executioner)
PP: Shock trooper
Hybrid Talent: Tempest style.  

Key feats:
Improved Tempest Style.
Draconic Arrogance.
Cunning Stalker.
Two Weapon etc.

Fighters have several stance powers that allow you to push a target 1 and shift 1 adjacent every time you hit them. Drac arrogance gives you STR mod bonus every time you push or prone something. Take as few fighter encounters as possible (they have several no-action, free-action, and minor action powers, so get those) and load up on ranger multi-attacks and off-action powers. If weaponized/powered properly, you can push the enemy all over the map, doing STR mod bonus every time you hit. You preferably want to use an offhand weapon (because you get insane bonus damage with them.) Short Swords are actually good for this build.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 2:04AM #10
King_in_Crimson
Date Joined: Dec 5, 2010
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Several hybrids combining a two weapon fighting class with either another two weapon fighting class or cleric or rogue are also better than the pure barb. Hybrids including the ranger are probably better than pure rangers.
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