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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2013 - 9:02PM #1
WielderoftheFlame
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Two questions (they are not related but both are about 3.5 material):
  1. Is there such a thing as "devil dwarves" and if so what book are they in?
  2. Can vampires reproduce sexually or are they limited to the being turned?


Thanks in advance for the help!
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2013 - 9:16PM #2
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1. Sounds a bit like what the Fiendish Template is good for.
2. Libris Mortis has the Half-Vampire that gives some suggestions toward how that might happen.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2013 - 11:50PM #3
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Feb 13, 2013 -- 9:02PM, WielderoftheFlame wrote:

Two questions (they are not related but both are about 3.5 material):

  1. Is there such a thing as "devil dwarves" and if so what book are they in?


No.

  • Can vampires reproduce sexually or are they limited to the being turned?


  • Sigh...

    Let's look at the biology, just for a second. Let's start with male vampires. Being "turned on" requires increased blood flow to the relevant bits. That's how the luggage gets lifted. Vampires are cold, and don't exactly have a heartbeat. Therefore, it's impossible for them to be "turned on." So, while a particularly fresh vampire might, theoretically, be capable of having a child, it would involve a knife and a turkey baster, and would generally be quite unpleasant.

    Now, for a female, as already covered, arousal is impossible. Now, even if we assume they were ovulating at the moment of becoming a vampire, and the ovum survived the ordeal, and it was fertilized by some necrophiliac, which would be quite unpleasant, putting the member up in a very chilly region like that, it wouldn't exactly grow. Biology and all. 

    If the female was already pregnant, and the child was already viable, I suppose it might be possible, but you may end up with an infant vampire. And that is, of course, leaving out the problems of the child getting out. But, hey, WotC fails at biology. There's a template for it in the Book of Bad Latin.

    So, no, it isn't possible. At least, not without magic. But, if you're involving that particular brand of magic, you might as well go the final step and start producing Emerald Legionaries.
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    4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 12:17AM #4
    BlackDragon71425
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    Feb 13, 2013 -- 11:50PM, EruditeApe wrote:

    Feb 13, 2013 -- 9:02PM, WielderoftheFlame wrote:

    Two questions (they are not related but both are about 3.5 material):

    1. Is there such a thing as "devil dwarves" and if so what book are they in?


    No.



    Actually, there are such things as "devil dwarves".  A specific named breed, called the Maeluth.  They are in the Fiend Folio, page 136, under Planetouched.

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    4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 3:46AM #5
    Seeron
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    following yiur logic EA,vampires coldnt do anything, because their muscles arent supported with ATP wothout blood. but this is a fantasy game, so they prob developed a replacement
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    3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 5:06AM #6
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    Logically, the answer to #2 must be "yes", since there is a vampire bloodline in Unearthed Arcana.
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    3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 5:45AM #7
    Slagger_the_Chuul
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    Feb 14, 2013 -- 12:17AM, BlackDragon71425 wrote:

    Actually, there are such things as "devil dwarves".  A specific named breed, called the Maeluth.  They are in the Fiend Folio, page 136, under Planetouched.


    In addition, page 124 of the Monster Manual 2 includes an entry for the Durzagon, a specific kind of half-fiend that results from the crossbreeding of a duergar (gray dwarf) with a powerful devil.

    Feb 13, 2013 -- 9:16PM, Vortsukoto wrote:

    2. Libris Mortis has the Half-Vampire that gives some suggestions toward how that might happen.


    To elaborate on that, one of the two examples it describes as a way to make half-vampires has a vampire gaining the ability to breed due to recently consuming a significant quantity of blood.

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    3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 5:48AM #8
    Lashius
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    Well, EA is at least half right about the boggles of vampire reproduction. One of the stipulations on intercourse related conception concerning a half vampire is that if a vampire drinks enough blood it kick starts their reproductive systems (since vampires don't rot away over time like most forms of undeath, it's assumed that everything is pretty much preserved). Another way a half vampire can come into being is if a pregnant woman survives a blood drain (though I'm not 100% sure of blood drain, thematically it could work (see the Blade comic book series))/energy drain attack from an assaulting vampire. In this case the negative energy warps the baby inside to have characteristics of a vampire via the half vampire template.

    EDIT: Seems Slagger rolled 2d6 of sudden strike damage on the topic well I was typing. Damn ninjas Laughing
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    3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 6:52AM #9
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    Feb 14, 2013 -- 5:48AM, Lashius wrote:

    EDIT: Seems Slagger rolled 2d6 of sudden strike damage on the topic well I was typing. Damn ninjas


    Nah, that's my 2d6 base claw damage, and improved grab routine to drag the topic into my space.

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    = My most popular campaign item; for all your adventuring convenience. Show
    Zauber's Mutable Rod: This rod has a number of useful functions that make it easier to live in the wilderness.  It is made of polished wood, with five studlike buttons on one end.  Each button produces a different effect when pressed.  Unless otherwise noted, the rod’s functions have no limit on the number of times they can be employed.
            When button 1 is pressed, one end of the rod produces a small flame, equivalent to a candle.
            When button 2 is pressed, the rod unfolds into a two-person tent, complete with bedrolls and warm blankets.
            When button 3 is pressed, the rod becomes a one-handed hammer, suitable for pounding pitons into a wall.
            When button 4 is pressed, the rod becomes a sturdy iron spade.
            When button 5 is pressed, the rod becomes a wooden bucket able to hold 2 gallons of liquid.  Once per day, it can be commanded to fill with fresh water.
    If the rod is seriously damaged or broken in any of its alternate forms (button 2, 3, 4, or 5), it reverts to its basic rod form and cannot be activated for 24 hours.
        Moderate conjuration; CL 9th; Craft Rod, minor creation; Price 375 gp; Weight 2 lb.
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    3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 9:52AM #10
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