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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 8:07PM
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You only leave a space behind you if you have the Tunneling feature. Otherwise it is as if you were never there, you don't leave a hole behind at all. And I don't think there are any ways for a PC to get Tunneling either.
See now thats an important distinction, and one I didn't notice. So with no tunneling, there is no tunnel.
But by the same note if he doesn't have a burrow speed can he not leave the sqaure? The example was that he would turn off his burrow speed so that hey could shift or move out of the hole. I would think if he ends not on the surface he cannot end his burrowing speed at all. Correct?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 8:49PM
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I don't think you can burrow through earth without a burrowing movement mode. Another akward thing about the OP's scenario is that since the badger's burrowing movement mode doesn't have the tunneling trait, how does it go from a tiny size to a medium one while still occupying an untunneled tiny space if squeezing doesn't happen automatically but require an action ? EDIT Found the answer. Nature's Mask would fail according to how Polymorph works, and leave the PC stunned. RC 119 Changing Size: If a polymorph effect would make a creature too large to fit in the available space, the effect fails against the creature, but it is stunned (save ends).
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 9:10PM
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I don't think you can burrow through earth without a burrowing movement mode. Another akward thing about the OP's scenario is that since the badger's burrowing movement mode doesn't have the tunneling trait, how does it go from a tiny size to a medium one while still occupying an untunneled tiny space if squeezing doesn't happen automatically but require an action ?
EDIT Found the answer. Nature's Mask would fail according to how Polymorph works, and leave the PC stunned.
RC 119 Changing Size: If a polymorph effect would make a creature too large to fit in the available space, the effect fails against the creature, but it is stunned (save ends).
So in the OP's scenario he would gain burrowing speed, move underground, provoke an OA, move next to the target, lose burrowing speed while not in a tunnel (no tunneling), not be able to fit in the sqaure and become stunned (Save Ends)? I feel like that is slightly different than he intended...
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 9:14PM
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He would not lose burrowing speed because he would fail to polymorph and thus remain a stunned badger.  In short, creatures usually don't willingly attempt to polymorph while occupying a space too small for their new form.
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Montréal, Canada
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 11:08PM
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A burrow speed is enough to be any size while burrowed. The tunnel is only relevant to other things, that don't have a burrow speed.
A creature that is currently burrowing that changes sizes is still burrowing, but now occupying the new size. It does not need tunnel to occupy the space it is burrowing in.
Oh, you mean un-hengeyokaing while burrowed? Yeah, can't occupy the space in the new form, stunned badger.
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