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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 7:00AM #11
draco1119
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Date Joined: Sep 25, 2005
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I already listed when you should take each level. And Dodge you don't need at all. Feat selection I would use something like this:
1) Warblade 1 (EWP (Spiked Chain), Power Attack*)
2) Fighter 1 (Improved Bull Rush*, retrain EWP to Combat Reflexes) There's no reason to be using a spiked chain instead of guisarme + spiked gauntlet right now. Seriously.
3) Fighter 2 (Combat Expertise, Improved Trip*)
4) Warblade 2 (+1 STR)
5) Crusader 1 (gives you access to 1st & 2nd level maneuvers, 1st level stance)
6) Warblade 3 (Shock Trooper)
7) Warblade 4
8) Crusader 2 (+1 CON) This is when you take Thicket of Blades.
9) Warblade 5 (Improved Initiative*, Stand Still) If you really want a spiked chain, what you do here is retrain you Combat Reflexes to EWP, then take CR as your bonus feat instead of Imp Init. I don't recommend that, though.
10) Warblade 6
11) Warblade 7
12) Warblade 8 (+1 STR) (Robillar's Gambit)

That's pretty much everything you're going for, as fast as you can get it. There might be somebody with a little more experience who can help you tweak it a little.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 7:09AM #12
frost.fire
Date Joined: Aug 24, 2012
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I think robilars is better then karmic strike personally, it doesn't rely on actually being hit, just being targeted
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 8:09AM #13
Lashius
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2012
Posts: 339

I think the Problem you’re having here is timing. From what it looks like to me, you’re going for someone who can charge in and ground himself well knocking people on their butts. I would suggest taking your second and third levels as fighter. At second level you take Improved Bull rush, and at third level you take Combat Expertise and Improved Trip. With that progression you have bull rushing on by second level, and you have tripping on by third level. Take another level of Warblade at fourth level and reap the benefits of having an initiator level of 3 which lets you take second level maneuvers. At fifth level instead of Sword Sage take a level of Crusader, which coincidently will give you an initiator level of 3 as well, so feel free to grab any second level maneuvers you want.


Continue on to level eight with Warblade levels and stick with combat reflexes as your Warblade bonus feat, and don’t forget to grab shock trooper at sixth level. At level nine, take one more level of crusader. Taking crusader at level nine will mean your crusader initiator level would be 5, just the right level to pick up thicket of blades as a stance, which you get as a second level crusader. For your ninth level feat I would go with leap attack so you can do more damage when you rush in on a charge.


From here on out just stick with levels of Warblade, and make sure that you pick up the maneuvers Pouncing Charge and Raging Mongoose. These will let you unload a full attack on a charge, with two extra attacks tacked on. For your twelfth level feat, take Robilars Gambit, and for your fifth-teenth level take Defensive Sweep. Your last feat is pretty much free, but I would suggest going with a martial study for Warblade.


Overall your attack regimen by level 20 should look something like a charging full power leap attack with diverting your negative to your AC and using Pouncing Charge and Raging Mongoose (also don’t forget to use Robilars Gambit, your AC will sink like a stone on the first round, but think of it as an investment in future action potential). Trip everyone in range and then smack them with the follow up attack from Improved Trip to spread the damage out a little. At this point, ground yourself with Thicket of Blades and stand where you are. If anyone moves, you get to attack them, if any one attacks you, you get to attack them, and if no one attacks you (surprise) you get to attack them.


Over all this sets you up as a low grade uber charger and a trip/lock down specialist. Crowd control and damage are your specialties in this regard, so pick maneuvers that either aid in this, or that offset weaknesses such as your poor will/reflex saves.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 1:30PM #14
ravitiate
Date Joined: Feb 6, 2013
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Thank you everyone for all your help, I think I've finally nailed it - and actually followed the rules! (as I said, returning to D&D after 12 years)

I made a slight modification, I don't really see the hurry with picking up Crusader-levels, I think it's much stronger to get them on level 8/9 so you access 3rd level Crusarder spells - and once you swap out some maneuvers you can use White Raven Tactics every single round! 

Final build: i.imgur.com/0fCTBLf.png



 I'm so happy we actually could make a character that fit every goal.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 1:52PM #15
Andarious-Rosethorn
Date Joined: May 23, 2012
Posts: 412
I'm doing a PBP with a character much like this right now.

Vidar is his name.

Human Barbarian 2/Warblade 4/Fighter 2/Crusader 2 (ECL 10)

1 -Power Attack
1R -Evasive Reflexes
2ACF - Improved Trip (Wolf Totem Barbarian ACF, From Unearthed Arcana)
3 - Stand Still
5F - Improved Bull Rush
6 - Leap Attack
6F - Shock Trooper
9 - Hold the Line
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