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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 11:22PM #1
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Dragon's-Eye View
Hydra

By Jon Schindehette

That many-headed and sometimes hard-to-kill creature known as the hydra is under examination this week! See what Jon has to say about the hydra, and give us some ideas on what you think about this pernicious creature.
 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 12:59AM #2
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Default hydras definitely have legs. This is basically a fantasy universal. Legless hydras can be a variant, but hydras definitely are four-legged creatures.

One angle regarding their heads that wasn't touched on is that I think it's important for hydras to not look as smart as dragons. Hydras have animal intelligence and neither speak nor understand languages, nor do they have strong individual personalities in the same way that dragons do. I think that they should look dumber than dragons do, and less noble.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 1:13AM #3
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I like Hydra as 7 headed bulky body four legged reptile-like behemoth.





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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 3:05AM #4
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I think a scaled hydra might be too reminscent of Tiamat, making it too draconic, IMO. Having smooth, rubbery skin seems like a good separation to prevent too much association. Granted, if you view hydras as related to dragons (I don't), then I would agree giving it draconic-like scales.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 3:28AM #5
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Lizard or snake like heads over dragonic with a little bit of a face like the Disney one.
Dinosaur like body.
Leathery skin texture.

Also I'd prefer a tiny bit of a single neck that splinters off into multple necks and heads. None of that "many necks from the shoulders" nonsense.

My full preference: a carnivorous many-headed Apatosaurus with lizard legs and  thin tail.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 4:33AM #6
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In original Greek mythology, the hydra was described as a "chthonic water beast." Through time, folks have played with those seemingly opposed concepts. Chthonic loosely means "in, under or beneath the earth," and water beast implies that it comes from the water.





The “chthonic water beast” refers to the personification of “fresh water”. The idea is (according to a widespread Mideast concept), the Cosmic Ocean is the encircling salt water, while the Abyss is the central fresh water. The flat-earth Land Disk floats on top of the Abyss. That is why fresh water - not salt water - bubbles up from deep in the earth. It is also why the Abyss is sometimes understood as infinitely deep, the earth itself is like a cosmic floating island on top of this fresh water.

So, the Hydra personifies the subterranean fresh waters of the infinitely deep Abyss.



Interestingly, in Babylonian belief, Tiamat personifies the encircling salt water of the Cosmic Ocean, while her mate Abzu personifies the central fresh water of the Abyss.

Across many cultures, these water bodies are conceived as cosmic-sized serpents.



The Hydra is a water serpent








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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 4:37AM #7
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DRAGON: The Hydra isnt a Dragon, but is an ancestor of the Dragon. The Hydra is a primitive, violent, near-mindless brute, that kills things because they make noise.



DRAGON = SNAKE + EAGLE + LION + HORNS

HYDRA = SNAKE + FISH





NO LEGS: This is a water serpent. Even tho it is a SNAKE, as a personification of fresh water, it seems appropriate to blend FISH features with it.

(Prefer no legs, according to the Classical mythology. But if a majority vote for legs, I could live with fish-like FINS, that could possibly serve as legs, if it twisted across a rocky surface.)

BODY: Snake. But a monstrous snake. Its probably ok to take aquatic-theme fishy liberties with it.

HEAD: The Hydra doesnt look like a Dragon, but you can tell they are kinda related.

ALIGNMENT: Chaotic
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 4:46AM #8
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Feb 6, 2013 -- 4:37AM, Haldrik wrote:

HYDRA = SNAKE + SNAKE + SNAKE + SNAKE + SNAKE + SNAKE + SNAKE + SNAKE + SNAKE + FISH



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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 5:16AM #9
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Hmm. A nine-headed hydra with a medusa heads...just how many snakes can you fit on a single monster...?

Or a beholder head atop each neck? Maybe that is getting a little too silly?
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 5:58AM #10
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... as usual, broken images.

I more imagine them as a giant snake bouquet, rather than a multi-headed land Dragon.
 
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