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4 months ago ::
Feb 14, 2013 - 3:08AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 19, 2007
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Hardback and PDF versions would be good, you can put security information on PDF files now days to keep copyright etc.
I don't want subscriptions, I want to be able to choose exactly what I buy.
If people want to subscribe that's cool, but it should be an Option not mandatory because sometimes people get busy, sometimes they don't have the cash, and sometimes they just want a decent tome instead of a collection of magazines.
Online tools are good, but not mandatory for initial release, the core game should require 3 books only. Not an internet connection or a library of books. After that, well release stuff in a logical fashion. Sure some of us have internet and smart phones and hobby tables, but some gamers have none of this stuff, just paper and dice, old style. They should not be excluded.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 24, 2013 - 8:06AM
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Date Joined:
May 14, 2012
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I think that some 4e Dragon Magazine articles made their way into books as appendices. Something similar might be a good idea for DDN as well. Release the classes in Dragon Magazine, collect them and sell as a book for those who prefer that. Include some further options in the books to add value. Other than that, use books mainly for new rule modules. Given that rules modules might be short they could either be sold with two or three modules in the same book, or preferably as different books lowering the price on each of them. Thus you would only buy what you want to use, and it would be affordable to expand your options each time.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 25, 2013 - 7:09AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 14, 2010
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Here is how I feel.
1. Hard Cover books. - Full price with a reedemable coupon or code for a DDI discount.
2. Digitial Copies - Cheaper than the Hard Cover but designed to be less "pretty" Scaled down picutres and maybe remove some the fluff.
3. DDI Subscription - The subscription while active gives you the ability to read and use core and splat books for free. However if you subscription lapses you lose access to any material you haven't purchased.
Their will always been folks who by hard copies. As someone with an immense digitial library when researching for a game I still go to the foot locker and boxes and pull out the physical copy. It feels more natural. The DDI sub will help those who can't keep up with book releases plus give folks a chance to try products they normally pass on. 15 dollars a month is a small price to pay to access all the material. Of course I would like to see the DDI tool expanded to allow for custom modules and rules similar to the orignal Core Rules Tool Set from 2nd.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 25, 2013 - 12:58PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2012
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Here is how I feel.
1. Hard Cover books. - Full price with a reedemable coupon or code for a DDI discount.
2. Digitial Copies - Cheaper than the Hard Cover but designed to be less "pretty" Scaled down picutres and maybe remove some the fluff.
3. DDI Subscription - The subscription while active gives you the ability to read and use core and splat books for free. However if you subscription lapses you lose access to any material you haven't purchased.
Their will always been folks who by hard copies. As someone with an immense digitial library when researching for a game I still go to the foot locker and boxes and pull out the physical copy. It feels more natural. The DDI sub will help those who can't keep up with book releases plus give folks a chance to try products they normally pass on. 15 dollars a month is a small price to pay to access all the material. Of course I would like to see the DDI tool expanded to allow for custom modules and rules similar to the orignal Core Rules Tool Set from 2nd.
The PDF copies should be the exact same thing as the books, not scaled down and with less fluff. They don't have to print a book for that sale so it's already cheaper on their end, and they'd have to spend more money creating a different version of the book that way, so it makes no sense, it's an artificial limitation.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 25, 2013 - 1:34PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 14, 2010
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The PDF copies should be the exact same thing as the books, not scaled down and with less fluff. They don't have to print a book for that sale so it's already cheaper on their end, and they'd have to spend more money creating a different version of the book that way, so it makes no sense, it's an artificial limitation.
They wouldn't have to spend any additional money. Scaled down books are simply the design documentation sans the pretty picture and fluff. Besides that point having scaled down PDFs is to allow for printing of the documentation. With Core Rules 2.0 They had the Core 2nd books scaled down into word format allowing owners to print he sections they wanted.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 25, 2013 - 7:35PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2012
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The PDF copies should be the exact same thing as the books, not scaled down and with less fluff. They don't have to print a book for that sale so it's already cheaper on their end, and they'd have to spend more money creating a different version of the book that way, so it makes no sense, it's an artificial limitation.
They wouldn't have to spend any additional money. Scaled down books are simply the design documentation sans the pretty picture and fluff. Besides that point having scaled down PDFs is to allow for printing of the documentation. With Core Rules 2.0 They had the Core 2nd books scaled down into word format allowing owners to print he sections they wanted.
Well okay, I can see that now, but you should get both versions with the download.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 03, 2013 - 12:47PM
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..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />1. Does it make sense to release hard cover books any more, or are we better suited through DDI?
I have only one answer to this: I mainly buy the books. I've bought oter stuff, like PDFs for convenience, but only if I already had the book.
I've used an original Fiend Folio from 1981 in our game last Friday. I find being able to do that essential which gives me two reasons not to trust digital options:
- Wizards of the Coast has at best a spotty track record for supporting digital tools and content for more than a few years.
- Even things like PDFs are only good for a limited amount of time, computer formats change. I think you'd find it very hard to open a computer file from 1981 today, but a 30 year old book is no problem.
I trust in dead trees for things like this.
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