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4 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2013 - 10:45AM #11
Keendk
Date Joined: Apr 12, 2010
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Feb 11, 2013 -- 1:54AM, AlmightyK wrote:

Feb 9, 2013 -- 2:10PM, Keendk wrote:

Its quite a common misconception, of basically people dont reading the feat propperly and thinking about old editions. It was completely clear for me when I read it.

 But seeing as so many people dont get it, its obiously not written well enough.


I suggest:
Charge:
"Whenever you take the hustle action you can also make an attack"




but it's not a hustle and attack. you take the shortest safest route possible. in other words, as straight a line as you can




Just add the movement restriction at the end.

What does that even mean? If route A is shorter than route b which is safer, what route do you take? In the spirit of charge rules in the past I would probably delete the word "safest".

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2013 - 3:15PM #12
chuck80
Date Joined: Sep 21, 2007
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I don't like your new wording.

The way charge is written up right now, you don't HAVE to hustle.

You could just use charge and move 30Ft and make your attack, then use your regular move to go somewhere else. 

It also means that if you use your regular move before the charge, that first part of the move doesn't have to be in a straight line 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 12, 2013 - 5:27AM #13
Keendk
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Feb 11, 2013 -- 3:15PM, chuck80 wrote:

I don't like your new wording.

The way charge is written up right now, you don't HAVE to hustle.

You could just use charge and move 30Ft and make your attack, then use your regular move to go somewhere else. 

It also means that if you use your regular move before the charge, that first part of the move doesn't have to be in a straight line 




Thats not how neither hustle nor charge works. Hustle lets you move your speed as an action, nothing else no strings attached (p12 how to play). Also you can split up all and any move as you like according to standard movememt rules, hustle does not change this.
 
 Charge has no straight lines. I think you might have made assumptions based on previous editions no sweat.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 12, 2013 - 7:58AM #14
chuck80
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Feb 12, 2013 -- 5:27AM, Keendk wrote:

Feb 11, 2013 -- 3:15PM, chuck80 wrote:

I don't like your new wording.

The way charge is written up right now, you don't HAVE to hustle.

You could just use charge and move 30Ft and make your attack, then use your regular move to go somewhere else. 

It also means that if you use your regular move before the charge, that first part of the move doesn't have to be in a straight line 




Thats not how neither hustle nor charge works. Hustle lets you move your speed as an action, nothing else no strings attached (p12 how to play). Also you can split up all and any move as you like according to standard movememt rules, hustle does not change this.
 
 Charge has no straight lines. I think you might have made assumptions based on previous editions no sweat.




You are entirely correct
I just assumed that everyone who would use the hustle action would do so to get extra move (and thus, use his regular move also) but technicaly speaking that was just an assumption.

Also, it is not necessarily in a straight line, but it does require you to use "the shortest safest route" which often is...the straight line. still, you're right, in the literal sense Laughing

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 12, 2013 - 9:01AM #15
Keendk
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sorry i can be such a pedantic rules lawyer at times
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