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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 3:04PM #1
Brutticus
Date Joined: Sep 2, 2011
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Hey char op. Its been a while. You lost weight. 

Im in a campaign. My friend is getting sick of his druid. The party is

Str/cha Warlord|Cleric (me) 
A hellblade
A shielding Sword mage

and he's sick of his wilden predator druid. He wants more strikery. We need a scout. I dont know if controller is nessecary.

I suggested: A centered breath monk. A rogue with a wis secondary. A scout. Or a bow ranger, which he is leery of. What does charop suggest?

We are at level 8, and we are allowed to use whatever material we want (although the DM might veto it randomly. he doesnt like warforged or dragonborn, for instance.) 

 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 3:22PM #2
ezrider23
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2009
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Archer Ranger.(Dex/Wis)
Two-Weapon Ranger.(Str/Wis/Dex)
Tempest Fighter|Ranger.(Str/Dex/Wis) 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 10:31PM #3
Zathris
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Controllers vary in usefulness, you're not going to find a Perception/Stealth (ie. scouting) Controller without going back to the Druid, though in that party I'd recommend a real striker (Hexblades are mediocre as you gain levels).

Gith, Elf, Half-Elf, or Dwarf Avenger (Wis/Dex) and Elf, (pretty much any Dex race) Ranged Ranger (Dex/Wis) both fit the bill
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 6:36AM #4
Gunthar
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That group lacks range, damage and control. I would suggest a Genasi Blaster Wizard or Archer Ranger with a couple of controller utilities. 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 7:09AM #5
GelatinousOctahedron
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If he doesn't want to do a bow ranger, then maybe a str/dex throw and stab type ranger? 

Give him some thrown weapons and he can do both melee and range, be a striker, and he can scout decently too all without having to be a bow ranger.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 7:16AM #6
ezrider23
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Pretty much as Zath said. This party is mostly lacking Dex/Wis and Control with a real helping of Damage.

A STR/DEX/WIS Tempest fighter offers some minor melee control, decent damage and can be a frontline scout. Be a human for an extra skill and MC Rogue(Thievery) or Executioner(Stealth). 
A regular ole scout or thief could work also. 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 9:55AM #7
erachima
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The dex/wis classes are druid, 3 types of ranger, avenger, monk, and shaman. The druid does more damage than the monk, making your suggestion rather poor there.

My recommendation is... Avenger paragon multiclassing as a ranger, because that's both really good and kinda my thing. If you don't like that idea, then archer ranger. If you don't like that either, scout. After that we're back to the druid.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 10:05AM #8
RenZhe
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 3:04PM, Brutticus wrote:

Hey char op. Its been a while. You lost weight. 



I had a tapeworm, ok? It's not like I did for you or anything, you d-d-dummy!


*Cough*....ok, anyway.

Dex/Wis (Elf, I guess) Rogue is not all that bad, and if you're running a warlord, you'll want someone to feed granted RBA in a ranged-heavy situation.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 12:35PM #9
windgate
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 10:31PM, Zathris wrote:

Controllers vary in usefulness, you're not going to find a Perception/Stealth (ie. scouting) Controller without going back to the Druid, though in that party I'd recommend a real striker (Hexblades are mediocre as you gain levels).

Gith, Elf, Half-Elf, or Dwarf Avenger (Wis/Dex) and Elf, (pretty much any Dex race) Ranged Ranger (Dex/Wis) both fit the bill






Eh.... There is the Dirty Harry Build (Ranger/Seeker)

Dex/Wis Ranged Striker with a small touch of control (IE proning)

Edit: Noticed you stated he was leery of the archer. Perhaps refluff as an arcane archer. Getting both scouting (perception) and sneaking isnt really feasible on anything other than a rogue or ranger (both can be melee or ranged)  

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 6:23PM #10
erachima
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Ah right, seeker. I knew I was forgetting one.
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