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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 7:14AM
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Aug 17, 2010
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One of my player's has asked me what the best class he can play as his dwarven cross bow wielder, this can be using as an impliment or as a weapon.
My first thoughts were ranger. But he want it to be as optimal as possible. Therefore must have a racial bonus to prime stat.
All I have come up with so far is some form of Shaman or Druid that uses a Ki focused Crossbow (via a multicalss)
But I'm sure there must be something better.
Thanks in advance
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 7:26AM
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Jun 30, 2008
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The only two classes that use wisdom as their prime stat and can use ranged weapon powers are seeker or cleric. I would guess seeker is your least worst choice of the two since building a cleric around just weapon wisdom ranged powers is a bad idea. Its ok if you pick implement powers as well and use a ki focus or something.
Your best bet would be to do a hybrid of some sort since many of the best crossbow builds are artificer and it can use wisdom as a secondary stat. Or else do a ki focus with a wisdom implement build like shaman, cleric, or something.
A hybrid artificer/shaman or artificer/warlord with a crossbow works very well.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 7:32AM
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Archer Warlord wouldn't be a bad choice - Dwarves have some nice WIS-lord feats, and the archerlord isn't terrible.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 7:33AM
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What's the rest of the party? Artificer with sup. xbow, buy an 18 in ing, racial bonus to con and wis.
Wizards of the Coast can suck it.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 7:38AM
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You could actually do Cleric|Seeker, although you'll need to figure out what direction you really want to take that build.
Seriously, I think it'd be fine with ranger anyway since the archer build is Dex/Wis. Just start with a pre-racial 18. I mean, you could argue that dwarf is not the most optimal race for ranger, but ranger just ends up being the most optimal striker class regardless of race anyway.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 7:52AM
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The rest of the party is yet to be decided, so no real help there. I will show him the findings tomorrow night and let u know the conclusion, but any more advice before then it still helpful
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 9:33AM
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My first thoughts were ranger. But he want it to be as optimal as possible. Therefore must have a racial bonus to prime stat.
Thanks in advance
In this case it's probably more optimal to pay the extra points and play a good class rather than force him to be a seeker or something. Stat bonus is nice, but it doesn't trump everything.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 9:44AM
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My first thoughts were ranger. But he want it to be as optimal as possible. Therefore must have a racial bonus to prime stat.
Thanks in advance
In this case it's probably more optimal to pay the extra points and play a good class rather than force him to be a seeker or something. Stat bonus is nice, but it doesn't trump everything.
18(dex)16(wis)13(con) Superior Crossbow Ranger. Mobility isn't really going to be an issue and Dwarf give some survivability.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 10:00AM
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Some other options... Play revenant dwarf, refluff as being touched by death or some such if the fluff bothers you, and call it a day. Alternatively, play a changeling, always look like a dwarf, which opens up Artificer as a decent crossbow option if you really want max Int.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 10:36AM
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Hybrid Ranger|Seekers are fun  Seekers have at least one good option of each kind of power per tier, so you'll never struggle too hard with power selection. You keep ranger-like damage via twin strike spamming but gain some neat control effects for when they're just as useful. Dex/Wis is all you need. Arrange points so they're the same value (and an even number), put extra points wherever you feel they will be most useful to shore up fort, give you another surge, or meet a MC feat prerequisite.
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