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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 5:48AM #1
RaizielDragon
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
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If you were to suggest a class based around this model, what would it be?

The model is of Dwarf, wielding an axe (and a pistol, but that parts not important) who has an armored bear as a companion.  They like to get into melee together and team up for some impressive damage.  They also like to knock stuff prone, but gain no major benefit from it apart from increased accuracy (combat advantage in this case).

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Yes, I killed your BBEG with his own lair: Show

Setting: Tomb with a perilous bridge and cliff 100 feet above a lava pit.

Mummy pops out of his sarcophagus, initiative:

Felix, Half-Elf Artificer: Twin Strike with crossbow.

Trump (ala Donald), Eladrin Warlord: Charges mummy with Opening Shove, pushing off the cliff.  Mummy fails saving throw, and falls into pit.

Sanshiro (ala Japanese "superhero" Segata), Minotaur Barbarian: Strength check to lift sarcophagus and carry to cliff.  Free action, drop sarcophagus into square above mummy.  Sarcophagus drops on mummy, shoving him further down into lava.

Mummy: proceeds to make a series of horrible athletics checks to swim and climb cliff.  Dies a horrible death with lava permeating every orifice.

Entire Party: Watches on in delight, faces alit with the glow of lava and flaming undead.



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I soap myself up, and turn up the hot water in the shower, so my sweat mixes with the soap, slickening my skin: +5 to grapple

I use my own legs as a shield since only upper-body hits matter: +5 defense

I use my teammates bodies to construct a vehicle for myself, and dual-wield their weapons because as long as I win, we all win: +10 attack, +10 defense

I completely ignore the enemy, their attacks, the devastating damage they are dealing to me and my team, and strike directly for their base, completely obliterating them, their way of life, and any chance they had at survival as a species: WIN

Ender: The Original CharOpper and Power Gamer.



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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 5:50AM #2
thespaceinvader
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2010
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Shaman, Fey beast Tamer or beastmaster archer ranger.  Basically your choices - and Shaman is the only one which can easily make the BC Large as that is.  Possibly Druid if you don't mind shapeshifting between the two.
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The Blinker - teleport everywhere. An Eladrin Knight/Eldritch Knight.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 5:53AM #3
RaizielDragon
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
Posts: 891
A Beastmaster Ranger was the only thing I had considered so far, but I know it's not considered a very good class choice.

With the Shaman, doesn't the Spirit Companion kind of just take up space?  And what is the way it can increase the size of the spirit?

And what about a Druid (Sentinel)?  Don't they have an animal companion of sorts, as well?
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Yes, I killed your BBEG with his own lair: Show

Setting: Tomb with a perilous bridge and cliff 100 feet above a lava pit.

Mummy pops out of his sarcophagus, initiative:

Felix, Half-Elf Artificer: Twin Strike with crossbow.

Trump (ala Donald), Eladrin Warlord: Charges mummy with Opening Shove, pushing off the cliff.  Mummy fails saving throw, and falls into pit.

Sanshiro (ala Japanese "superhero" Segata), Minotaur Barbarian: Strength check to lift sarcophagus and carry to cliff.  Free action, drop sarcophagus into square above mummy.  Sarcophagus drops on mummy, shoving him further down into lava.

Mummy: proceeds to make a series of horrible athletics checks to swim and climb cliff.  Dies a horrible death with lava permeating every orifice.

Entire Party: Watches on in delight, faces alit with the glow of lava and flaming undead.



Original CharOpper Show


I soap myself up, and turn up the hot water in the shower, so my sweat mixes with the soap, slickening my skin: +5 to grapple

I use my own legs as a shield since only upper-body hits matter: +5 defense

I use my teammates bodies to construct a vehicle for myself, and dual-wield their weapons because as long as I win, we all win: +10 attack, +10 defense

I completely ignore the enemy, their attacks, the devastating damage they are dealing to me and my team, and strike directly for their base, completely obliterating them, their way of life, and any chance they had at survival as a species: WIN

Ender: The Original CharOpper and Power Gamer.



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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 7:23AM #4
Scatterbrained
Date Joined: Aug 31, 2009
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Nice minis

Sentinel has two companion options, and one of them is even a bear (although a refluffed wolf sounds like it would fit your description better). Sentinel also gets Combined Attack as an encounter power, which is pretty much what you described, but let me just say it's not an effective choice mechanically. The overall problem with Sentinel is that all of the weapon attacks are pretty horrible, and I'm not sure if you'll be able to use implement attacks (or even wnat to) unless maybe you get a ki focus.

Fey Beast Tamer could work really well. Go owlbear and he'll give you extra damage and combat advantage on anything next to him. Just go regular ranger and you can say Tiwn Strike is both of you each taking a swing. That's probably the most optimal route.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 8:28AM #5
ezrider23
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Jan 29, 2013 -- 7:23AM, Scatterbrained wrote:

Nice minis

Sentinel has two companion options, and one of them is even a bear (although a refluffed wolf sounds like it would fit your description better). Sentinel also gets Combined Attack as an encounter power, which is pretty much what you described, but let me just say it's not an effective choice mechanically. The overall problem with Sentinel is that all of the weapon attacks are pretty horrible, and I'm not sure if you'll be able to use implement attacks (or even wnat to) unless maybe you get a ki focus.

Fey Beast Tamer could work really well. Go owlbear and he'll give you extra damage and combat advantage on anything next to him. Just go regular ranger and you can say Tiwn Strike is both of you each taking a swing. That's probably the most optimal route.



Get yourself a few more of those awesome minis and do it all. 

Fey Beast Tamer Beastmaster Ranger|Sentinel/Shaman.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 8:40AM #6
zelink551
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Shaman SC has an OA. And Doesn't suck like a Sentinel.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 9:01AM #7
ezrider23
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It's too bad there is no hybrid talent for a full Druid Season, Bear Companion and d12 Staff w/ Staff Expertise could be nice.

Could the Sentinel be turned into a "striker" by power swaping for ranger powers, maybe even paragon multi-class? Cherry pick the best powers? I don't know, just grasping at straws here. 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 10:32AM #8
Alraune
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No, it couldn't. You'd be STR/CON/WIS and 90% of you would suck at everything.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 10:49AM #9
ezrider23
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Jan 29, 2013 -- 10:32AM, Alraune wrote:

No, it couldn't. You'd be STR/CON/WIS and 90% of you would suck at everything.



Okay, i'll move on from that fail.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 6:57PM #10
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