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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 6:40AM #11
GambitSpades
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I want him to bring Justice...Armor based Tank 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 6:53AM #12
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In that case, use a crusader, or a fighter/crusader multiclass.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 6:56AM #13
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Jan 29, 2013 -- 6:40AM, GambitSpades wrote:

I want him to bring Justice...


Okay, that's much more clear.

I'm going to jump on the Crusader wagon. Just crusader 20 is probably the way to go. That said, an Idiot Crusader is really cool, though it may be a bit OP for your games.

Armor based Tank 


Doesn't work. There's no such thing as tanking in D&D. At all. It just doesn't exist. Also, armor is generally quite inefficient.

Also, we need to know what sources are allowed.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 7:07AM #14
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I'm also gonna jump on the Crusader bandwagon.  They're fun, fit what you're asking for, work well and are pretty tough to mess up.  I actually played a Crusader from 1-20 before and didn't have too much trouble keeping up with the rest of the folks.  That ranged combat stuff can be a bear but that's not what I designed the character for.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 7:18AM #15
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Nice...Crusader it is! What stats you recommend in a 28 point buy?
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 10:00AM #16
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Str>Con>Int/Wis>Cha>Dex
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 11:39AM #17
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Dex as last? isn't Dex boosting AC? wich i am aiming for...
and still...how many pojnts in each? 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 11:53AM #18
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You want to wear armor. The heavier armor is, the more it limits your Dexterity bonus. For example, an ordinary set of full plate armor limits your Dex bonus to +1, so if you want to wear full plate not made of mithral or another special material, putting more than 13 in Dex is an absolute waste.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 1:32PM #19
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Jan 29, 2013 -- 11:53AM, Lord_of_Dragonborns wrote:

You want to wear armor. The heavier armor is, the more it limits your Dexterity bonus. For example, an ordinary set of full plate armor limits your Dex bonus to +1, so if you want to wear full plate not made of mithral or another special material, putting more than 13 in Dex is an absolute waste.


Well, that's true for the AC aspect of it, anyway.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 2:30PM #20
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If you're a "heavy armor" type player you probably aren't a "ranged" player which removes one more use of DEX.  Of course there is a feat that lets you use WIS for ranged attacks but that's a different issue.  If you don't need DEX for AC or attacks that leaves skills and save.  Now DEX does govern a lot of good skills but many of those skills will also see the armor's ACP when is the system's way of saying "forget about these skills if you wear heavy armor" so we could dismiss DEX's value for skills when wearing heavy armor.  That just leave REF save and while it is a commonly used save it is almost always done to resist/reduce damage and damage is something that can be ignored at times.
 
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