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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 6:56AM #101
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Not very bizarre. This was the original D&D. I liked it but some people really hate it. I thought it worked great for multiclassing and classes that were more powerful than others. It balanced the unbalance. A fighter/magic user/thief required putting xp in all three classes to raise levels in each.


Yeh, until someone wants to play the underpowered-for-its-cost barbarian class. And then spends years getting to level 5 while everyone else is rocketing towards the stratosphere.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 7:22AM #102
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I would have a requirement that every DM/Player have to actually READ the core books rather than skip sections.

Then at the end of the book, every player/DM would be required to sign and submit an Official Document stating they will not be a jerk, both online and in the D&D game they agreed to play together.

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It does little to attempt to simulate anything either. (AD&D) is first and foremost a game for the fun and enjoyment of those who seek the use of imagination and creativity....

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 7:27AM #103
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Implement a class structure that is closer to 4E to help close the gap between martial characters and casters. This does not need to be implemetend as AEDU.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 9:09AM #104
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Jan 26, 2013 -- 6:56AM, arderkrag wrote:

Not very bizarre. This was the original D&D. I liked it but some people really hate it. I thought it worked great for multiclassing and classes that were more powerful than others. It balanced the unbalance. A fighter/magic user/thief required putting xp in all three classes to raise levels in each.


Yeh, until someone wants to play the underpowered-for-its-cost barbarian class. And then spends years getting to level 5 while everyone else is rocketing towards the stratosphere.



The numbers for each class may not have been right but I liked the concept. I doubt they playtested the xp numbers or had someone actually develop a weighting system using a statistical analysis.

D&d is very math heavy yet the people who develop the systems often seem very oblivious to the math that they use. They need to hire one PhD in math or statistics to review the system before implementing it. 

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 9:18AM #105
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Jan 26, 2013 -- 1:40AM, Pashalik_Mons wrote:

Scrap it all, work on making the best fantasy RPG they possibly could, disregarding all traditions in the process.




This.  They should also disregard all the people on this forum as well. 

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 10:49AM #106
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Jan 24, 2013 -- 5:59AM, mellored wrote:

Get rid of attack rolls.   1d20+weapon+Str - AC = damage.


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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 9:27PM #107
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D&d is very math heavy yet the people who develop the systems often seem very oblivious to the math that they use. They need to hire one PhD in math or statistics to review the system before implementing it.


Ain't that the frickin' truth.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 9:38PM #108
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Jan 26, 2013 -- 9:27PM, arderkrag wrote:

D&d is very math heavy yet the people who develop the systems often seem very oblivious to the math that they use. They need to hire one PhD in math or statistics to review the system before implementing it.


Ain't that the frickin' truth.


Need I remind everyone that former WotC employee and semi-regular contributor Richard Garfield has a doctorate in combinatorics?

Get Ricky into DDN dev, dammit!

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 9:50PM #109
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Jan 26, 2013 -- 9:09AM, kezzek wrote:

The numbers for each class may not have been right but I liked the concept. I doubt they playtested the xp numbers or had someone actually develop a weighting system using a statistical analysis.

D&d is very math heavy yet the people who develop the systems often seem very oblivious to the math that they use. They need to hire one PhD in math or statistics to review the system before implementing it. 



I think people overestimate the amount of math that actually needs to be applied. PhDs are the people pushing the boundaries of their fields forward. You don't really need a PhD in math or statisitics. You don't even need a guy with a college degree (although it probably wouldn't hurt). You just need a guy with the knowledge of how to apply the high-school-level math that needs to be done and - more importantly - the willingness to do it. That willingness really is key, though. Math is a part of game design (especially the design of games as intricate as D&D), just like it's part of running a business. Good intentions don't magically make math happen on their own.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 26, 2013 - 9:50PM #110
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I want a My Little Pony version of D&D. 

 
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