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4 months ago ::
Jan 29, 2013 - 9:32PM
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I couldn't find it specifically in PHB but it's stated quite plainly in Rules Compendium pg 84 Shields Shields don’t change size to match the wielder. You can’t use an inappropriately sized shield. Edit: Also, just in case the subject of Rules Precedence comes up, Rules Compendium pg 5 under 'Introduction' states, "When a preexisting core book or supplement differs with the rules herein, Rules Compendium is meant to take precedence. If you have a question on how to play D&D at the table, this book is meant to answer that question."
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4 months ago ::
Jan 29, 2013 - 9:54PM
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Glad I called what I said a house rule then, lol, thank you Ahruhn.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:03PM
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I couldn't find it specifically in PHB but it's stated quite plainly in Rules Compendium pg 84
Shields
Shields don’t change size to match the wielder. You can’t use an inappropriately sized shield.
Considering how much faith Oma has put into the RC when trying to explain how the UMD skill makes it easier to use scrolls then just being a spellcaster who could actually cast the spell I'm surprised he managed to miss that.
I don't own the RC but the answer to all of his "show it too me" questions have been staring him in the face the whole time.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:09PM
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Considering how much faith Oma has put into the RC when trying to explain how the UMD skill makes it easier to use scrolls then just being a spellcaster who could actually cast the spell I'm surprised he managed to miss that.
I don't own the RC but the answer to all of his "show it too me" questions have been staring him in the face the whole time.
I'll have to find that Scrolls arguement and see what he's saying about it. You have a link you can point me to? I'm guessing it's hidden in a completely unrelated thread.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:50PM
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Considering how much faith Oma has put into the RC when trying to explain how the UMD skill makes it easier to use scrolls then just being a spellcaster who could actually cast the spell I'm surprised he managed to miss that.
I don't own the RC but the answer to all of his "show it too me" questions have been staring him in the face the whole time.
I'll have to find that Scrolls arguement and see what he's saying about it. You have a link you can point me to? I'm guessing it's hidden in a completely unrelated thread.
You're probably right about the thread heading and giving the explosive nature it isn't going to be too easy to find the posts either. There have been several things including "casting" the spell off a scroll as opposed to simply "activating" the spell on the scroll. Now that I think about it the topic was probably concerning counterspells and if you could use a scroll to do it.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 30, 2013 - 5:51AM
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The scroll debate was so far off topic as to be unrecognizable, and then I believe I made it worse -hangs head in shame- It largely involves ignoring the actual rules for scrolls and using the UMD skill as the official rules for magic items instead, hard to argue with "ignore the official rules, these unrelated rules overwrite them" line of trolling. Same guy that casts slow on his mount so it can ready a charge in the middle of a full round attack.
It's ok if a DM overlooks a rule, such as the shields discussed here, so long as he makes a fair ruling in the interests of balanced play, it's when the rules are twisted to be used in an exploitive fashion that it is an issue.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 30, 2013 - 6:45AM
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To be fair, though, the rules aren't always very specific, and some of the ideas involved don't directly contradict each other, so they're not explicitly ruled out unless the writer thought that particular issue might be a problem. For example, a number of different descriptions refer to activating spell items as "casting" the spell from an item, and activation of an item doesn't inherently exclude the possibility of it counting as casting.
Shields are a perfect example of the kind of ambiguity that exists; you've already got descriptions of using differently-sized weapons in the equipment chapter of the PHB, and different armour sizes described in the armour section of the chaper, but they didn't bother to mention what would happen for differently-sized armour (which is possibly covered by the DM's common sense), or shields (which is more credible, since it's easy to imagine a human trying to use a giant's shield for protection). You'd expect the PHB's equipment section to cover it, but it takes until the Rules Compendium before an explicit answer is given. Not, of course, that the DM can't cover the gaps, but it's nice if they don't have to do so.
Unlike some of the rather self-important people with whom I've occasionally spoken, Oma isn't phobically afraid of using actual evidence to support his claims, which I consider to be a plus in a discussion. It would be very nice if that language barrier disappeared, though, since I'm often left wondering if his points make more sense on the other side (especially with things like that discussion about "spell levels" with the ring of spell storing).
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4 months ago ::
Jan 30, 2013 - 8:04AM
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Am I the only one to notice that Oma hasn't bothered posting in this thread since he was successful in getting someone banned? 
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4 months ago ::
Jan 30, 2013 - 8:39AM
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I couldn't find it specifically in PHB but it's stated quite plainly in Rules Compendium pg 84
Shields
Shields don’t change size to match the wielder. You can’t use an inappropriately sized shield.
Edit: Also, just in case the subject of Rules Precedence comes up, Rules Compendium pg 5 under 'Introduction' states, "When a preexisting core book or supplement differs with the rules herein, Rules Compendium is meant to take precedence. If you have a question on how to play D&D at the table, this book is meant to answer that question."
Thanks, this a official rule that i can apply.
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