So I want to know is what this guy is saying possible? For the arcane wizard? and if so how can I some how get that on a ranger class?
"For the light-armor crowd, Warforged can basically start the game with a pocket Mithral Breastplate -- which itself can be further improved with feats for even higher DEX bonus. With the aforementioned Docent, this could give you a virtual +6 Mithral Breastplate with max DEX 6 in the bank just for deciding to play a Warforged! Great for Rogues, Rangers, Evasion tanks, Bards, TWF builds... and arcanes!
That's right -- as a Warforged, you can be an arcane-with-AC. Warforged enjoy a line of enhancements that allow them to reduce ASF, as well as docents which serve the same purpose. If you're willing to accept some of the pain of ASF through the early ranks, you can roll a caster that runs around in a nice +6 Mithral Breastplate! And honestly, the pain is not that bad. Combining enhancements and a Lesser Arcane Sigil docent, and you're already at only 5% by level 2, and should be able to fairly easily hit 0% by level 7. And, if you're a wizard willing to spend a few feats, you could go high-DEX, take dodge and mithral fluidity, and be eventually running around with a 45 AC. (10 base + 11 armor + 6 DEX + 6 shield (mithral light) + 5 protection + 2 chaosguarde + 3 chattering ring + 1 dodge(feat) + 1 self-haste"
So I want to know is what this guy is saying possible? For the arcane wizard? and if so how can I some how get that on a ranger class?"For the light-armor crowd, Warforged can basically start the game with a pocket Mithral Breastplate -- which itsel
He's entirely correct, but seems to under-value the cost of taking those feats relative to what you can get in other places.
The Mithral Body feat is awesome in its own way (as is the Adamantine Body feat, again, in its own way), but they're warforged-only and 1st level only and replace another feat you could take at that level. By the time that wizard shows up, all of that could have been picked up through spells, more or less (assuming you even bother with AC at all; a wizard can do better than infinite AC by around level 9 or so), and the wizard is all bout out of feats!
Furthermore, he's using a "docent component" which is largely an intelligent item; they're hard to get to order in most games.
Generally speaking, no one does this. Warforged casters, when they show up, tend to use either Mithral Body and a class that ignores spell failure, or the normal composite plating and suffering the 5% until they get a chance to reduce it cheaply.
As for a ranger, yes, a warforged ranger with Mithral Body is quite possible (and if a warforged were to be a ranger, they would probably have a mithral body plating).
He's entirely correct, but seems to under-value the cost of taking those feats relative to what you can get in other places.The Mithral Body feat is awesome in its own way (as is the Adamantine Body feat, again, in its own way), but they're warforged
But is it possible to get all of what he is saying for a wizard on a ranger?
As I just said, yes. However, he's going about it very, very inefficiently.
What he's describing is a Warforged character (race in Races of Eberron or the Eberron campaign setting; they start with an innate +2 armor bonus and 5% ASF) with the Mithral Body feat (changes their racial armor bonus to +5, increases ASF to 15%, adds a -2 check penalty (which, unlike real armor, is not doubled for Swim) and a +5 maximum Dexterity bonus, and considers them to be wearing light armor) and multiple Mithral Fluidity feats (raises Max Dex by +1 and lowers ACP by 1, so two of these gives you a 0 check penalty). Finally, he adds in a docent component (costly intelligent magic item) to reduce ASF by 5%, and probably the Twilight enhancement to further lower ASF by 10%. Final stats? +6 armor (had to enhance it to be +1 to add on Twilight), +7 maximum Dexterity, 0 Check penalty, 0 ASF, light armor. Total cost? 3000gp plus the cost of the docent (usually around 9000gp minimum; I forget offhand how expensive that one is) and three feats.
This is three feats down, so that wizard hasn't picked up a single metamagic feat or spellcasting feat from levels 1-6, just to wear armor which is scarcely better than a twilight mithral chain shirt: +5 armor, +7 maximum Dexterity, 0 check penalty, 0 ASF, light armor, total cost 4100gp and zero feats.
Since rangers don't care about arcane spell failure, a warforged ranger wouldn't need to waste money on the docent nor on the twilight enhancement, and could probably get by with just Mithral Body. You also get bonus combat style feats, so you can spend your character feats on Mithral Fluidity if you want, but I don't think this would be wise in most cases unless your Dexterity was insane (and if it's always going to be insanely high, you can just stick to standard warforged composite plating: it doesn't cost you a feat and has no max dex bonus.)
As I just said, yes. However, he's going about it very, very inefficiently.What he's describing is a Warforged character (race in Races of Eberron or the Eberron campaign setting; they start with an innate +2 armor bonus and 5% ASF) with the Mithral
A note: Warforged can't wear armor. UNLESS they take the Unarmored Body feat at 1st level. Without that feat, they either waste feats (as Tempest said), or they suck up the ASF. Much more efficient if your set on a Warforged arcane caster.
A note: Warforged can't wear armor. UNLESS they take the Unarmored Body feat at 1st level. Without that feat, they either waste feats (as Tempest said), or they suck up the ASF. Much more efficient if your set on a Warforged arcane caster.
This is three feats down, so that wizard hasn't picked up a single metamagic feat or spellcasting feat from levels 1-6, just to wear armor which is scarcely better than a twilight mithral chain shirt: +5 armor, +7 maximum Dexterity, 0 check penalty, 0 ASF, light armor, total cost 4100gp and zero feats.
Or the even cheaper and better githcraft/feycraft mithral shirt with thistledown padding, if you're optimizing your gear.
A typical wizard can get a feycraft mithral shirt with thistledown suit for just 1,850 gp, saving herself a pound of weight (and she can afford a feycraft mithral heavy shield for 1,520 gp and it still costs less than the twilight enchantment). And it's not even enchanted yet.
Real wizard armour is made by fairies or by angry yellow people from another dimension.
Or the even cheaper and better githcraft/feycraft mithral shirt with thistledown padding, if you're optimizing your gear.A typical wizard can get a feycraft mithral shirt with thistledown suit for just 1,850 gp, saving herself a pound of weight (and
The article you're quoting from is about Dungeons and Dragons Online. Assuming you're playing the pen-and-paper version of the game, you should bear in mind that DDO isn't identical.
The article you're quoting from is about Dungeons and Dragons Online. Assuming you're playing the pen-and-paper version of the game, you should bear in mind that DDO isn't identical.
