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Flag penandpaper2 January 21, 2013 10:15 AM PST
The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           
Flag DoctorNecrotic January 21, 2013 10:22 AM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:15AM, penandpaper2 wrote:

The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           




LEGO and D&D?  Hasbro doesn't own LEGO, plus I figure they're been business rivals.  I mean, I would LOVE that, but I don't think it'll happen.

Flag PlanarRambler January 21, 2013 10:42 AM PST
Oh, God, not Uni! For the love of Pete's Dragon!
Flag Sizzaxe January 21, 2013 11:03 AM PST
I personally like/have liked the comic lines. I know comic audience is small, but I would like to see this continued.
Flag wrecan January 21, 2013 11:05 AM PST
About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.
Flag Failedlegend January 21, 2013 11:12 AM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:22AM, DoctorNecrotic wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:15AM, penandpaper2 wrote:

The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           




LEGO and D&D?  Hasbro doesn't own LEGO, plus I figure they're been business rivals.  I mean, I would LOVE that, but I don't think it'll happen.




Heh Lego is one of the few remaining well known brands NOT owned by aconglomerate...its also VERY well known to endorse pretty much anything in lego form...if lego refuses Megablocks is just as popular nowadays.

Now imagine getting a Lego DnD Game...say like a tactics grid based rpg similar to fire emblem or final fantasy tactics with different equipment looking visually different...would use use 5e ruleset but very simplified. Get Perkins to voice the DM who of  course is also a legoman him self...Imagine when you select a character to move a giant lego hand of the player for that can reaches in and moves him...and the dm moves any monsters...than during story time the camrea pans up and back so the players (I vote for Acquisiton Inc. to be the players) and the DM can be seen around the table and a little animation is shown up above them to show what their describing...of course the classic Lego games humour woould be present.

This would be huge publicity..lego games tend to realease on well everything pc, consoles, Ios, handhelds, etc. and are for the most part decent quality and it could also serve to soften the blow of the staggering amount of things you need to learn this DnD since this is super simplified than whoever the DM can fill in the blanks if they decide to try PnP...also a good idea would be that if they sign up at these forums they get a "secret" class and some extra starting gold in the game

So in short: Marketing ideas

1. DnD Lego
2. Chris Perkins and/or Aquisitions Inc. Guest spot on "Big Bang Theory"
3. DnD Lego Game
4. New DnD Show...possibly even mentioned during guest spot on BBT
5. Add encounters to places other than gaming stores

All awesome ideas...as for the comic though while I would love that it would do little to nothing for marketing since..well their comics...if you know comics your likely at least have a general idea of DnD so only a small amount of people would be swayed this way...good idea in gerneral..bad marketing idea

Flag LadyBlackwell January 21, 2013 11:23 AM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:05AM, wrecan wrote:

About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.




I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.

Flag wrecan January 21, 2013 11:27 AM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:23AM, LadyBlackwell wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:05AM, wrecan wrote:

About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.




I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.



I agree.  I would actually think Hasbro would greenlight it as more material for HUB, with associated marketing.  Sort of Hasbro's answer to Legend of Korra.

Flag penandpaper2 January 21, 2013 12:15 PM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:05AM, wrecan wrote:

About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.




Great idea!

Flag souldoubt January 21, 2013 12:19 PM PST
D&D Legos is a brilliant idea.  Add to that the fact that Lego minifigs make excellent, highly customizeable tabletop minis (given a base to make them stand more stable), and you've got some serious money-making potential.  I would bet gp to sand that Lego D&D minis and Lego "dungeon tiles" would sell.

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:27AM, wrecan wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:23AM, LadyBlackwell wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:05AM, wrecan wrote:

About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.



I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.


 
I agree.  I would actually think Hasbro would greenlight it as more material for HUB, with associated marketing.  Sort of Hasbro's answer to Legend of Korra.


Putting it that way, it sounds like a pretty cool idea.

Flag DoctorNecrotic January 21, 2013 12:28 PM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 12:19PM, souldoubt wrote:

D&D Legos is a brilliant idea.  Add to that the fact that Lego minifigs make excellent, highly customizeable tabletop minis (given a base to make them stand more stable), and you've got some serious money-making potential.  I would bet gp to sand that Lego D&D minis and Lego "dungeon tiles" would sell.

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:27AM, wrecan wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:23AM, LadyBlackwell wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:05AM, wrecan wrote:

About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.



I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.


 
I agree.  I would actually think Hasbro would greenlight it as more material for HUB, with associated marketing.  Sort of Hasbro's answer to Legend of Korra.


Putting it that way, it sounds like a pretty cool idea.




You beat me to it (refering to legos at least)  Due to budget constraints and an ENDLESS supply of castle/what have you LEGO old and new, I tend to use legos for my games if a visual is needed.  Though, some of players can't handle the awesome.  As for my cynicism, I still wonder if rivals like Hasbro and Lego will ever team up.  I still have doubts.

Flag souldoubt January 21, 2013 12:51 PM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 12:28PM, DoctorNecrotic wrote:

As for my cynicism, I still wonder if rivals like Hasbro and Lego will ever team up.  I still have doubts.


Where there's a will money to be made, there's a way.  Anything is possible with the power of imagination! commercialism.

Flag Lugnut171 January 22, 2013 8:24 AM PST
Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.
Flag mellored January 22, 2013 10:30 AM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:24AM, Lugnut171 wrote:

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.


So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.

Flag DoctorNecrotic January 22, 2013 10:32 AM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:30AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:24AM, Lugnut171 wrote:

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.


So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.




As a LEGO purist, I must protest

Flag mellored January 22, 2013 10:33 AM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:32AM, DoctorNecrotic wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:30AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:24AM, Lugnut171 wrote:

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.


So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.


As a LEGO purist, I must protest


The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).

Edit: Apparently they do.  So we're all good.   

Flag Failedlegend January 22, 2013 10:34 AM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:33AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:32AM, DoctorNecrotic wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:30AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:24AM, Lugnut171 wrote:

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.


So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.


As a LEGO purist, I must protest


The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).




Kre-o, Lego and Megabloks all work well together in most cases

Flag KopakaNuva January 22, 2013 10:40 AM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:34AM, Failedlegend wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:33AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:32AM, DoctorNecrotic wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:30AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:24AM, Lugnut171 wrote:

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.


So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.


As a LEGO purist, I must protest


The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).




Kre-o, Lego and Megabloks all work well together in most cases





As another lego purist. No. We do not contaminate the pure source.

Flag Failedlegend January 22, 2013 10:45 AM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:40AM, KopakaNuva wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:34AM, Failedlegend wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:33AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:32AM, DoctorNecrotic wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:30AM, mellored wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:24AM, Lugnut171 wrote:

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.


So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.


As a LEGO purist, I must protest


The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).




Kre-o, Lego and Megabloks all work well together in most cases





As another lego purist. No. We do not contaminate the pure source.




Also there's the issue of no brand recognition, the lego suggestion was based on this I've never seen Kre-O anywhere, this thread is the first I've heard of it so unless Target carries it (all zellers across Canada are being replaced by targets) it won't being a good marketing move at least up here....really Megabloks took almost 10 years to lose the "fake lego" reputation I doubt Kre-o wouldn't gain this title for at least a bit

As for purists I don't care I buy both Megablocks and Legos basically which happens to have a set I'm looking for but it does show that if its not Lego it won't work as well for Marketing and it defina=tely lacks the ability to have the widesoead appeal of the Lego video games

Flag wrecan January 22, 2013 11:22 AM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:45AM, Failedlegend wrote:

this thread is the first I've heard of it so unless Target carries it (all zellers across Canada are being replaced by targets) it won't being a good marketing move at least up here....



According to the Kre-O website, Kre-O can be found in Wal-Mart, Amazon, K-Mark, Toys-R-Us and, yes, Target.  Right now, they only have sets for Transformers and Battleship.  They are slated to have some sets for Star Trek to coincide with this summer's movie.  I doubt Kre-O will release a D&D set without a major D&D movie.  (Which means, basically, they won't do it.)

Flag Ed_Warlord January 28, 2013 1:24 PM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:15AM, penandpaper2 wrote:

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.


I like this idea.  Encounters is what brought me back to D&D.  

Though, I doubt Next, which is so focused on existing fans, would be the ideal edition to target "non-players."  



Flag Mand12 January 28, 2013 1:42 PM PST

Jan 22, 2013 -- 11:22AM, wrecan wrote:

I doubt Kre-O will release a D&D set without a major D&D movie.


Well, the way forward should be rather obvious, then.

Flag Failedlegend January 28, 2013 1:57 PM PST

Jan 28, 2013 -- 1:24PM, Ed_Warlord wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:15AM, penandpaper2 wrote:

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.


I like this idea.  Encounters is what brought me back to D&D.  

Though, I doubt Next, which is so focused on existing fans, would be the ideal edition to target "non-players."  






I'd say run encounters with "Basic" Rules so it could be easily intro'd to new players than of course most home groups would likely be running by Advanced rules and any players transfering from encounters to a home game could be brought up to speed.

Flag cocoasword January 28, 2013 4:35 PM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:15AM, penandpaper2 wrote:

The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           


free copies of the dnd game to schools across america!   Make it easy for kids to get into.

Flag penandpaper2 January 28, 2013 6:08 PM PST

Jan 28, 2013 -- 4:35PM, cocoasword wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:15AM, penandpaper2 wrote:

The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           


free copies of the dnd game to schools across america!   Make it easy for kids to get into.




That's a great one.  Put it in the libraries of middle and high schools. 

Flag Mournblade94 January 29, 2013 7:19 PM PST

Jan 28, 2013 -- 6:08PM, penandpaper2 wrote:

Jan 28, 2013 -- 4:35PM, cocoasword wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:15AM, penandpaper2 wrote:

The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           


free copies of the dnd game to schools across america!   Make it easy for kids to get into.




That's a great one.  Put it in the libraries of middle and high schools. 




It worked for the Macintosh computer.



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