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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 10:39PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 28, 2005
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So folks, my current campaign came to a point where I have a chance to redo my character sheet. He's currently a swift hunter, but reading some threads I thought that it would fit him better to go Archer Cleric. But while building this baby I've hit some problems. He has some restrictions though. Must remain an Elf. Must keep the original ability scores (not that bad): Spoiler:
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Current Level: 13
Str 10
Dex 23
Con 10
Int 14
Wis 18
Cha 8
What I thought of his new build (up to 20) Spoiler:
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Deity: Solonor Thelandira
Cleric 5/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 10/Incantatrix 3/??? 2
Domains: War,Travel,Magic.
Divine Magician Variant
Feats:
1- Point Blank Shot
1- Weapon Focus (Longbow)
1- Extend Spell
3- Persistent Spell
6- Holy Warrior
9- Precise Shot
12- Knowledge Devotion
15- Rapid Shot
18- Improved Precise Shot
18 (incantatrix)- ? I believe it could get better, way better. Should I go dweomerkeeper instead? What prc do you suggest to fill those 2 remaining levels? Just plain c. cleric? as always, thanks in advance =D
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 10:50PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 25, 2005
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Why is there no Divine Metamagic (Perstistent Spell)?! For the last PrC, you can't go wrong with Contemplative; it gives you yet another domain. Crag top Archer is phenomenal for archers, but poo for clerics. As always, use Divine Power and Righteous Might. Righteous Wrath of the faithful won't do much for you (I think it only applies to melee), but it's still a handy buff for your allies.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:03AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 24, 2005
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I don't think anything in seeker of the misty isle is worth giving up caster levels. Also, in order to qualify before level 13, you need survival as a class skill, and none of the domains that give that are available to clerics of Solonor Thelandira. Incantatrix requires iron will, which I don't see listed. Are you planning to spend a week in an otyugh hole? You've got three feats listed at 1st level. You've got the standard feat and the bonus feat from the war domain, but where's the other coming from? Did you drop the elf domain for divine magician and forget to update your feats?
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:05AM
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From a little experience, I'd suggest Cloistered Cleric if you can afford to keep a persisted Divine Power on yourself.
Going with that nets you Lore, a few more spells on your list, the Knowledge Domain, and a few more skill points for the loss of armor proficiencies you weren't using (Because you're wearing a monk's belt, right?), martial weapon proficients you weren't using (because you're using a longbow and other automatic elf proficiencies), and a d6 HD rather than a d8.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:08AM
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In my experience, you're only ever in Seeker for the free domain. I suggest you drop most of the levels.
Heroism Domain is pro, as is Animal. Get them.
How are you qualifying for Incantatrix? And, that aside, DMM is generally more efficient, as is the bustedness of Dweomerkeeper, if you somehow qualify anways.
Needs moar Cloistered Cleric. Contemplative is always good. Cleric is a three-level class, by the way, as there is no reason not to take Church Inquisitor at level 4.And that's all I've got right now, as I am AFB and tired.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:38AM
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Should invest in zen archery aswell if possible (although less optimized since you're at level 13) also DMM is going to be the best way to go if not for the spell which improves your bab. Also erudite ape is correct cleric needs 3 levels tops before going out of it
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:46AM
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@frost.fire No he doesn't need Zen Archery. He's got a Dex that's 5 higher than his Wis already and can't change his ability scores. That would be a waste of a feat for no direct, and very little potential, benafit.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 6:41AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 28, 2005
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I don't think anything in seeker of the misty isle is worth giving up caster levels. Also, in order to qualify before level 13, you need survival as a class skill, and none of the domains that give that are available to clerics of Solonor Thelandira.
Incantatrix requires iron will, which I don't see listed. Are you planning to spend a week in an otyugh hole?
You've got three feats listed at 1st level. You've got the standard feat and the bonus feat from the war domain, but where's the other coming from? Did you drop the elf domain for divine magician and forget to update your feats?
Yeah, I will use otyugh's hole. Sorry, indeed I forgot to update the list.
Damn, never paid attention to the Survival thing. What should I do?
From a little experience, I'd suggest Cloistered Cleric if you can afford to keep a persisted Divine Power on yourself.
Going with that nets you Lore, a few more spells on your list, the Knowledge Domain, and a few more skill points for the loss of armor proficiencies you weren't using (Because you're wearing a monk's belt, right?), martial weapon proficients you weren't using (because you're using a longbow and other automatic elf proficiencies), and a d6 HD rather than a d8.
Will change it.
In my experience, you're only ever in Seeker for the free domain. I suggest you drop most of the levels.
Heroism Domain is pro, as is Animal. Get them.
How are you qualifying for Incantatrix? And, that aside, DMM is generally more efficient, as is the bustedness of Dweomerkeeper, if you somehow qualify anways.
Needs moar Cloistered Cleric. Contemplative is always good. Cleric is a three-level class, by the way, as there is no reason not to take Church Inquisitor at level 4.And that's all I've got right now, as I am AFB and tired.
Divine Magician qualifies me for Incantatrix plus otyugh's hol (forgot to add iron will to the list)
Church inquisitor will be hard to qualify for because of the lawful requirements, since I'm an elf and servant to the elven gods (chaotic everywhere).
Contemplative is only available at level 10. Perhaps go Cloistered Cleric 5/Dweomerkeeper 8/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 7
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 7:18AM
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Apr 11, 2001
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Divine Magician doesn't make your (divine) cleric spellcasting into arcane, it just adds wizard spells to your spell list (which would be divine spells when you cast them). Even if you were to get around that restriction, Incantatrix only advances arcane spellcasting, so you'd still be hosed. Thus, for your cleric build, Dweomerkeeper would most definitely be the superior of the two.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 5:32PM
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Jan 28, 2005
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Indeed. So, Cloistered Cleric 5/Dweomerkeeper 8/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 7 or Cloistered Cleric 5/Dweomerkeeper 10/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 5 ?
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