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5 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 6:08PM #11
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Moar caster levels is always betterer than less.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 6:35PM #12
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Jan 20, 2013 -- 6:41AM, Yuukale_Narmo wrote:

Divine Magician qualifies me for Incantatrix plus otyugh's hol (forgot to add iron will to the list)


...No it doesn't.

Church inquisitor will be hard to qualify for because of the lawful requirements, since I'm an elf and servant to the elven gods (chaotic everywhere).


Dang. I forgot how fruity the Elf gods are. I'd seriously drop them, though. So many better options. Or, really, you don't even need to worship the pansy elf gods to be a Seeker.

Or, alternatively, the pantheon rules are awesome. 

Contemplative is only available at level 10. Perhaps go Cloistered Cleric 5/Dweomerkeeper 8/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 7


Even ignoring the lameness of Seeker(Which is only 1. Or 4 if you need BAB for prereqs.), which is really, really bad, and ignoring the fact that you still can't qualify for DK, the build is mediocre.

To do what you want, but to be good(Well, excluding the fact that Clerics are busted to begin with), I'd say you want Cleric 3/Inquisitor 2/Divine Oracle 4/Seeker 1/Contemplative 1/X9(Or Contemplative 6/X3, or Cleric 3/Wizard 1/Inquisitor 1/Dweomerkeeper 10/Contemplative 1/Seeker 1/Divine Oracle 1/X2.

Or, of course, Stormlord is awesome, if you want to go down that path.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 24, 2013 - 4:37AM #13
Azoriel
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Ah, good point; I forgot that Dweomerkeeper requires the ability to cast both arcane and divine, meaning the build will require at least one level of an arcane class.  I'd agree wizard is the better option, mostly for the bonus feat (scribe scroll, or trade out for a fighter feat if you're using Unearthed Arcana).  (Even better if you decide to delve into PHB2's immediate magic abilities!)

I'm a big fan of metamagic, so I'd be keen on having more levels of Dweomerkeeper.  (That capstone ability is a nice one - if you intend to do a lot of metamagicking, that is.)  The base class itself (Cleric) is fairly sturdy though, so you should have a playable character even if you decide to put more levels into Seeker.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 24, 2013 - 5:32AM #14
Yuukale_Narmo
Date Joined: Jan 28, 2005
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Yeah, changed my mind to something along the lines of:

C.Cleric 4/Conjurer 1 (abrupt jaunt ftw)/Dweomerkeeper 8/ Seeker 7

1- Point Blank Shot (elf domain); Longbow Focus (war domain); Knowledge Devotion (knowledge domain); Extend Spell
3- Extra Turning
6- Precise Shot
9- Persistent Spell
12-  Divine Metamagic Persistent
15- Rapid Shot
18-  Holy Warrior

My abilities though, will screw me. Charisma taking a severe hit, I'd be able to persist only one spell.
I was thinking, would an incantatrix be a better archer just UMD-ing wands of cleric stuff and persisting them?

It strikes me that this cleric is a bit too much trouble to go through instead of sticking to a Swift Hunter. 
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