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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 1:58AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2012
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Am currently trying to build a decent desert wind monk and would like some advice on a few choices and other stuff:
Does Blistering flourish trigger Firewind Blade, it says it works on fire attacks and blistering flourish has the fire keyword even though it doesn't actually deal fire damage.
Is blessing of blazing fangs really worth it? I noticed it was rated gold in the item handbook but the designated desert wind powers seems good enough (except for salamander charge) so you would be able to trigger firewind blade most of the time anyways and if you use the blessing you are wasting your flurry on yourself instead of damaging enemies with it and all for a piddly 2 damage. Also if you take Soaring blade or Malec keth you could choose any power after they come online.
Dead tiefling or dead firesoul genasi? tiefling's got the most fire support but genasi get to deal fire dmg on melee attacks without enchant at lv 11 thanks to shocking flame (though you need the rules questionable extra manifestation trick to do it if i remember correctly) and with Soaring blade or Malec keth you could add frost damage and in extension frostcheese to the mix (thus bypassing fire resistance)
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 2:11AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 28, 2012
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Yes Firewind triggers on Blistering Flourish.
The goal of using the blessing (and it is an Alternative Reward, you better have a very good reason for your DM to just give it to you) along with Soaring Blade and Shocking Flame (actually, you'd go Stormsoul) is to deal as many types of damage as possible for their various support. Cold for Lasting Frost, Fire for Firewind, Lightning for Gifts for the Queen + Promise of Storm
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 2:30AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2012
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Ah hadn't thought of also abusing lightning support, that'd explain the usefulness of the blessing which I would (probably) have no problem getting access to since the DM has allowed me to use boons before (namely pelors sun blessing) XD
Don't really know what gifts for the queen is though?
Also is it worth mc'ing sorceror to steal flame spiral (though i would probably have to go 18 dex 18 cha in that case)?
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 6:41AM
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Dec 22, 2010
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Armisael also vastly overvalues it in his guide.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 7:07AM
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Aug 29, 2012
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hence me questioning it! I guess it's just easier to just pick the monk powers dealing fire damage (Maybe stealing sorceror powers trough mcing but maybe there's a better Mc?) after all I did have to bring down a cult that tried to turn the world into a part of the Shadowfell in order to get Pelors sun blessing XD
Did find out that gifts of the queen was a set, one takes it mostly for the set bonus correct? Though the radiant converting helm could certainly be useful with some help from a friendly morninglord
Also what theme would be optimal? Though I suppose one of Weretheme/Firecrafter/Sohei/Infernal prince will be the answer XD
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 7:25AM
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Jul 16, 2010
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The Monk fire powers are all quite good. They generally either boost your damage or give you multiple damage instances. Flame Spiral is a nice enough power swap, though it's not as powerful on a Monk as on a Sorceror because a Monk won't have quite as many damage roll bonuses (no Sorc striker feature, no DIS, etc.) to apply. Still a great option, though, particularly if you take it on one of your weaker levels.
For themes, Firecrafter and Sarifal Feywarden (non-Drow fey) are my top picks, because they both can generate vulnerability, which a Desert Wind Monk will proc multiple times per turn with their powers. That said, Infernal Prince has that +1 on Fire powers, which is also incredibly strong. I don't like it because it's banned in LFR, but it's very powerful. Also note that, if you do take Firecrafter, the attack power swaps are hella weak, so don't bother with them. Do take the U6 Daily, though.
Anyway... One of the bigger problems a Desert Wind Monk will have is getting around Fire resistance, and you've correctly identified the two races that negate that weakness. Genasi add a second damage type, and Tieflings have that incredible resistance-piercing feat.
Also, Gifts of the Queen is probably not worth it here. But it's also not wasted if you do a Stormsoul Genasi with Shocking Flame. Really, the only mandatory items on a DW Monk are the Firewind Blade and a Ki Dagger. The other item slots are prettty flexible.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 7:26AM
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Dec 22, 2010
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Speak of the Devil.
I was just about to link Tobascodagama's build.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 7:43AM
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Revenant Teifling for constant bleed monk.
Feats should include:
Slashing Kama Style
Icy Clutch of Stygia
Beshaba's Boon
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 7:56PM
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Apr 28, 2012
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Genasi doesn't really get around the resist thing, you aren't doing 35 fire and lightning damage which requires both resists, you're doing 22 fire and 13 lightning damage which only requires fire OR lightning to reduce the particular value.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 8:05PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2010
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That's just straight-up wrong.
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