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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:12PM
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Date Joined:
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Gary is dead... I think his opinion is completly irrelevant now
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:39PM
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Date Joined:
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I respect Gary Gygax a lot, but I'm in favor of all of the basic PC races having souls. It might be good in mythology and literature, but in a game it won't really work to flat-out say that humans are special and the gods like them better.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:42PM
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Date Joined:
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i don't think it matters.
i am however opposed to core rules being changed because of some stupid fluff artifact from forty years ago. if resurrection is in the game, it should be available to all the core races by default.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 1:16PM
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Date Joined:
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If gary said elves have no souls....
elves have no souls.
;-)
Gary was wrong about a lot of things.
And yes, that changed. Hell, it changed in 2nd Edition, if I remember right.
But if you want to house rule that, go right ahead. I've houseruled that nobody has souls, so you can change it up if you want to.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 1:33PM
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"X Have no souls, only Y have souls" is a really, really uncomfrotable way of putting it. "The souls of X and Y work differently" (which is more in line with Tolkien-as-source anyway) is not only less horrifically reminiscent of RL racism of a former age, but more tennable for X being PCs that just happen to interact with bringing-back-the-dead effects differently.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 2:27PM
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Gary is dead... I think his opinion is completly irrelevant now
Yes! And next let's write a book about Middle-Earth where dwarfs are 10ft tall and elves can shoot laser from their eyes.
Because who cares about the creator's view of his own work?
As long as we keep the "brand" we can just throw everything else down the drain!
It's worked wonders for Hollywood... that's why we have so many horrible sequels.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 2:28PM
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Because who cares about the creator's view of his own work?
So, how's that Model T you're driving holding up?
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 2:32PM
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Date Joined:
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Even if Gary did decide elves have no souls in First Edition, that's not a feature of any other edition. I don't even think it was a feature of OD&D or BECMI. I mean, I'm all for tradition, but this tradition has almost no traction and hasn't been in the game at all for... 25 years. It has all the historical intertia of racial level limits and alignment languages.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 2:38PM
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It has all the historical intertia of racial level limits and alignment languages.
And the scary thing is, there are people who think those were good ideas. *shudder*
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 2:53PM
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Date Joined:
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Even if Gary did decide elves have no souls in First Edition, that's not a feature of any other edition. I don't even think it was a feature of OD&D or BECMI. I mean, I'm all for tradition, but this tradition has almost no traction and hasn't been in the game at all for... 25 years. It has all the historical intertia of racial level limits and alignment languages.
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