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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 8:28AM #291
Beldak_Serpenthelm
Date Joined: Aug 3, 2012
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Feb 7, 2013 -- 7:12AM, Tectorman wrote:

If the 3.5 Paladin class had been written “Alignment: Any.  However, the Paladin is traditionally a Lawful Good character and abides by a strict code of conduct that dictates the boundaries of their actions.  If you would like to be a part of that proud tradition, the code of conduct follows (see below).  DMs are advised to remember that players are participating in the game for their own enjoyment, so their participation in the Lawful Good, code-following tradition should be worked with, if desired, but never assumed”, then there wouldn’t have been near as much grief or villianization.  I mean, are not players who are presented with Paladin: Alignment: Any capable of choosing LG for their own characters?  I can tell myself “Self, don’t play a Ranger multiclassed with a Rogue” and I can guarantee that no force in the universe could make me do otherwise.  But just because I make that choice for myself doesn’t mean it should be foisted on anyone else.




Actually, I think that LastBestAngryMan (the author of AnnandaleGaming) covered it pretty well in his article: 
annandalegaming.blogspot.com/2007/05/pal...

I don't completely agree with his evaluation of Chaotic Goods as "passive," so I would probably be open to a HOUSE-RULED class that functions similarly to a LG Paladin, but I would probably want the mechanics to be slightly different (to reflect how CG deities have different expectations for their followers), and probably have a different name to reflect the different background. Do you have any ideas?

Or Holy Liberator, perhaps?

A character sheet is a player's love letter to the DM. If someone wants to do something and they want to do it well, let them. Encourage them. Have fun with it. -Unknown
An adventure is a DM's love letter to the players. If the DM wants something to happen in the game, let it. Encourage the DM. Have fun with it. -Centauri

I'd love for input as to what it should be rather than arguments against why I shouldn't have it at all. -lialwyn

Best defense that I've read in favor of having alignment systems as an option
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However, if some people are heavily benefiting from the inclusion of alignment, then it would behoove those that AREN'T to listen up and pay attention to how those benefits are being created and enjoyed, no? -YagamiFire


But equally important would be for those who do enjoy those benefits to entertain the possibility that other people do not value those benefits equally or, possibly, do not see them as benefits in the first place. -wrecan


That makes sense. However, it is not fair to continually attack those that benefit for being, somehow, deviant for deriving enjoyment from something that you cannot. Instead, alignment is continually attacked...it is demonized...and those that use it are lumped in with it.

I think there is more merit in a situation where someone says "This doesn't work! It's broken!" and the reply is "Actually it works fine for me. Have you considered your approach might be causing it?" than a situation where someone says "I use this system and the way I use it works really well!" and the back and forth is "No! It is a broken bad system!" because the former posits that improvement could be made...the latter only undermines the enjoyment of the person who is using alignment. -YagamiFire

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 8:50AM #292
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