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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 6:56AM
#91
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When it comes out, for real, I'll try it. I won't buy it first, I'll let someone else do that.
That seems a bit mercenary. no matter what edition, I just have to have them all, as a committed D&D enthusiast/DM/player.
I now have a good collection of 1e-4e, tho 3eand 4e collect dust - I do clean them tho. But with the downward turn from the first playtest to the most recent - I see myself on Amazon and e-bay collecting 1e and 2e books before I would spend any amount on DDN. Tho WOTC will continue to get my money on the reprints of the 1e and 2e books and modules.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 7:09AM
#92
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well then I guess I'm a mercenary too, people can make the arguement all they want that if I play a game I owe it to the company to buy a book for all the work they have done... but all the play testing, all the technical design, all the art, all the fluff, none of that means anything to me if the game sucks and people dont want to play it, then it just becomes another dust collector and eventual rat urine absorber.
"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." Gygax
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 8:40AM
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I'm not running or playing any oWoD games right now but if someone asks me if I play oWoD then I'll say "yes". I still fail to see the problem. You either are up for a game or you're not. If the group around you is feeling the vibe on something that's not your favourite, then you have to ask yourself if you're up for a game or not. If you are, the system won't matter that much. If you're not, then the system won't matter that much. We've all got our favourites but a game is a game. We don't have to go compartementalising ourselves in the way you're suggesting, Baal.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 4:00PM
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Tag me as a mercenary gamer, I guess. But, I just don't have the funds. Sure, mid-late 2014 is a distance from now, but I don't know what the future brings. I'll continue to check out the direction of 5e of course, as I'm still quite excited to see what they'll do next. But, I'm hoping I still have a job by then. Plus, I can't see the economy getting too much better by then. Anyway, enough depressing stuff... If D&DNext is as good as I hope it is, I'll sell stuff off if I have to in order to get it. If it isn't, I'll wait and see when I have time to invest and/or play with friends who have it. At worst, I'll play with what I have and continue that way.
Disgruntled ghost of the Knights of W.T.F.
(Keep D&D alive, end the edition wars!)
"And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Disclaimer: Most of my posts are based on opinions (and are sometimes humorous, other times inspirational)
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 11:21PM
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1) what was your favorite edition or version of D&D (but don’t tell me why, that seems to get people banned)
Truthfully? I hate D&D. As backwards as it sounds, since I'm part of the playtest and infrequently prance around on the forums from time to time, I wholeheartedly despise Dungeons and Dragons. As for the why, it's a number of reasons. My experience with D&D is limited to 3.0, 3.5, 4th, Pathfinder, and a couple of other D20 variants like Iron Heroes, and the like, so I'm not as experienced as plenty of people around here. As it turns out, I hate high fantasy. I hate the setting, I hate the fluff, and I certainly hate the rules. What I hate most of all is the need for countless amounts of material. To me, neither 3rd nor 4th edition had any semblance of balance without mountains of supplement books, which resulted in a mess of unnecessary content and tons of wasted money. Thankfully for me, however, I have yet to buy a single D&D branded book, miniature, die, or card. Coming from a Magic: The Gathering background, my group is extra eager to buy anything with Wizards of the Coast labelled on it. Also, to this day, I still can't seem to create a specific type of character that I want, despite the numerous classes, prestige classes, paragon paths, and oceans of rules. I'm something of a minimalist, so less is more, and D&D is certainly a game that follows a more is more way of thinking.
2) Do you think Next has done it? Do you believe that Mearls and the team have successfully overcome your loyalty to previous editions, your enjoyment of PF or other games currently on the market to such a degree that you and everyone you game with would be willing to put everything else aside if the release day was today?
A few things seem like glaringly obvious flaws with the playtest, and people tend to discuss some of these issues time and again such as dexterity being a super stat and that intelligence and strength are unnecessary unless you're specifically a wizard or fighter, respectively. The fact Kool(Mike) & the Gang can't grasp why people still assume the skill system is an integral part of the game, as opposed to an afterthought, when the rogue and monk class have abilities directly related to their supposedly unimportant skill system or when people complain that strength and constitution hardly apply to any skill rolls at all, so their entire basis of skills being directly related to stats is moot.
Things like the promise of making an edition attract fans of all previous editions and even new players, but at the moment seems to really only attract a percentage of any given edition or that bounded accuracy being a half truth, since HP and damage are so bloated, I'd like to think that the development team has not overcome my loyalty. I'm still loyal to hating D&D.
These are just my opinions, however.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 21, 2013 - 7:03AM
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That seems a bit mercenary
What's wrong with that?
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4 months ago ::
Jan 21, 2013 - 9:49AM
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Jun 15, 2008
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1) what was your favorite edition or version of D&D (but don’t tell me why, that seems to get people banned)
Truthfully? I hate D&D. As backwards as it sounds, since I'm part of the playtest and infrequently prance around on the forums from time to time, I wholeheartedly despise Dungeons and Dragons. As for the why, it's a number of reasons. My experience with D&D is limited to 3.0, 3.5, 4th, Pathfinder, and a couple of other D20 variants like Iron Heroes, and the like, so I'm not as experienced as plenty of people around here. As it turns out, I hate high fantasy. I hate the setting, I hate the fluff, and I certainly hate the rules. What I hate most of all is the need for countless amounts of material. To me, neither 3rd nor 4th edition had any semblance of balance without mountains of supplement books, which resulted in a mess of unnecessary content and tons of wasted money. Thankfully for me, however, I have yet to buy a single D&D branded book, miniature, die, or card. Coming from a Magic: The Gathering background, my group is extra eager to buy anything with Wizards of the Coast labelled on it. Also, to this day, I still can't seem to create a specific type of character that I want, despite the numerous classes, prestige classes, paragon paths, and oceans of rules. I'm something of a minimalist, so less is more, and D&D is certainly a game that follows a more is more way of thinking.
2) Do you think Next has done it? Do you believe that Mearls and the team have successfully overcome your loyalty to previous editions, your enjoyment of PF or other games currently on the market to such a degree that you and everyone you game with would be willing to put everything else aside if the release day was today?
A few things seem like glaringly obvious flaws with the playtest, and people tend to discuss some of these issues time and again such as dexterity being a super stat and that intelligence and strength are unnecessary unless you're specifically a wizard or fighter, respectively. The fact Kool(Mike) & the Gang can't grasp why people still assume the skill system is an integral part of the game, as opposed to an afterthought, when the rogue and monk class have abilities directly related to their supposedly unimportant skill system or when people complain that strength and constitution hardly apply to any skill rolls at all, so their entire basis of skills being directly related to stats is moot.
Things like the promise of making an edition attract fans of all previous editions and even new players, but at the moment seems to really only attract a percentage of any given edition or that bounded accuracy being a half truth, since HP and damage are so bloated, I'd like to think that the development team has not overcome my loyalty. I'm still loyal to hating D&D.
These are just my opinions, however.
So you don't like high fantasy which D&D has always been.. ?
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4 months ago ::
Jan 21, 2013 - 11:13AM
#98
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It's what my group plays.
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