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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:08PM #1
TheMalteseFalchion
Date Joined: Aug 8, 2011
Posts: 737
Dragon 419 hit, some articles that might be of note:

Winning Races: Hobgoblins
Pretty amazing racial ability here.  Auto-end an effect.
Great racial weapon training feat, flails and spears.
Constitution, and Intelligence or Charisma.


Winning Races:  Bladelings
Ugh, racial is still 2/4/6 instead of 3/6/9.

Jan 12, 2012 -- 8:31PM, Bargle0 wrote:

This is CharOp. We not only assume block-of-tofu monsters, but also block-of-tofu DMs.



Feb 5, 2012 -- 8:44AM, Illeist wrote:

One reach cheese'd threatening reach Spiked Chain shuts down any non-teleporting quarterback.



May 12, 2013 -- 6:38PM, zelink551 wrote:

You're already refluffing, what not refluff to something that doesn't suck?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:19PM #2
zelink551
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Posts: 3,359
Intelligence? really?
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28317541/Barfcheeze_help?pg=1

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:25PM #3
Chainsawhand
Date Joined: Jan 6, 2013
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at least they didn't make another dex/cha
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:30PM #4
Sceptile
Date Joined: Apr 19, 2012
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Sounds like Hobgoblins will be a top Battlemind race.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:31PM #5
tobascodagama
Date Joined: Jul 16, 2010
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Any themes? Class support of any kind?

Hobgoblin racial weapon training does sound pretty great. The stat spread could work for a Battlemind, though I'm not sure how much they like spears and flails. IIRC, they do like to MC Fighter and thus can pick up some of the nice flail and spear support over there.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:35PM #6
zelink551
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Jan 14, 2013 -- 6:30PM, Sceptile wrote:

Sounds like Hobgoblins will be a top Battlemind race.




The problem is that Tieflings and Half-elves exist.

The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28317541/Barfcheeze_help?pg=1

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:37PM #7
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
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A race that can get spiked chain and weapon focus for it with a feat.

Hobgoblins get a lot of weapons with flails such as nets, spiked chain, and the cahulaks. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:48PM #8
TheMalteseFalchion
Date Joined: Aug 8, 2011
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Gouge and Greatspear too.  It's a pretty nice combination feat, AND the damage on it scales 2/3/4 unlike Eladrin/Dwarf.

Jan 12, 2012 -- 8:31PM, Bargle0 wrote:

This is CharOp. We not only assume block-of-tofu monsters, but also block-of-tofu DMs.



Feb 5, 2012 -- 8:44AM, Illeist wrote:

One reach cheese'd threatening reach Spiked Chain shuts down any non-teleporting quarterback.



May 12, 2013 -- 6:38PM, zelink551 wrote:

You're already refluffing, what not refluff to something that doesn't suck?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 6:51PM #9
Scatterbrained
Date Joined: Aug 31, 2009
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Wow the bladeling feats are disappointing.  Spend two feats to make your fists into spiked gauntlets!
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 7:10PM #10
Noctaem
Date Joined: Mar 28, 2010
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I think it's actually nice to see hobgoblin getting INT.  Considering all the hob mages I killed in baldur's gate I & II, it makes sense to me :p  The weapon feat is also very nice.
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