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5 months ago ::
Jan 13, 2013 - 4:32PM
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Jan 13, 2013
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Hi I play a barbarian I do lots of dpr and am fairly tanky, however I am the only one in the party who is Vs AC. When I hit I tend to do chunks of the monsters hp killing them in about 1-2 rounds. My DM however did not like the fact that I was doing so well, in responce the only things we fight nowadays are monsters with unresonable AC hindering only me and no one else in the party. I am no longer having any fun as I cannot hit anything and am only good for skill checks.On the bright side the rest of my party is having a blast and all the monsters are a cake walk for them as they only have high AC. So I ask WHAT DO ????????
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5 months ago ::
Jan 13, 2013 - 5:05PM
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Talk to the DM, first of all. Tell him basically what you have just told us. You feel you're being treated unfairly, and you aren't having fun.
You're playing a striker, and I'm wagering a pretty optimized one (or your DM really likes to use weak monsters). Taking out monsters in a round or two is your job; that's how it's supposed to work.
If he's not willing to come to some kind of compromise, then leave the game.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 13, 2013 - 5:18PM
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What Lola said. If he persists, call him Steve, hit him with a folding chair, then leave.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 13, 2013 - 5:26PM
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Talk to the DM, first of all. Tell him basically what you have just told us. You feel you're being treated unfairly, and you aren't having fun.
You're playing a striker, and I'm wagering a pretty optimized one (or your DM really likes to use weak monsters). Taking out monsters in a round or two is your job; that's how it's supposed to work.
If he's not willing to come to some kind of compromise, then leave the game.
This. The other striker and I are the two characters who are most optimized in my group, and the DM tends to whine about us. But, doing good damage is our job. We remind him of that, point out that our combats /still/ drag on forever because we don't carry the group /enough/. That usually ends the discussion.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 13, 2013 - 8:08PM
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Talk to the DM, first of all. Tell him basically what you have just told us. You feel you're being treated unfairly, and you aren't having fun.
You're playing a striker, and I'm wagering a pretty optimized one (or your DM really likes to use weak monsters). Taking out monsters in a round or two is your job; that's how it's supposed to work.
If he's not willing to come to some kind of compromise, then leave the game.
I can't see how this can be said any better.
+1
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5 months ago ::
Jan 14, 2013 - 1:06PM
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Yeah, that's pretty cheap. Talk to the DM. It's pretty easy to see why he did what he did, but there are probably other approaches. One might be to make somewhat more involved encounters that can't be ended just be smashing the monsters. Another would be to make an encounter that the monsters can win in a single round, if the barbarian doesn't unload. "Win" here does not mean "kill the PCs," but something like blowing up a bridge or killing an NPC. Before, it was just fun to smash the monster in one or two rounds, now you HAVE to do it, or you lose.
Keep in mind, though, that you set yourself up for this kind of vulnerability. There are several barbarian powers that target Fortitude, and a few that target Reflex. If your party has a leader, there should be some ways for you to get attack bonuses when you need them. The rest of the group might be having fun, but it's probably to their advantage to set up their striker to be able to hit.
[N]o difference is less easily overcome than the difference of opinion about semi-abstract questions. - L. Tolstoy
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5 months ago ::
Jan 15, 2013 - 12:46PM
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Are we all jumping to conclusions here without seeing the numbers? Typical target AC and character level before I even start to form an opinion on this one.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 15, 2013 - 12:53PM
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Are we all jumping to conclusions here without seeing the numbers? Typical target AC and character level before I even start to form an opinion on this one.
If the player has an impression that the DM "hates" them, they should talk to the DM, even if the numbers are "right."
[N]o difference is less easily overcome than the difference of opinion about semi-abstract questions. - L. Tolstoy
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5 months ago ::
Jan 15, 2013 - 1:26PM
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Assuming your character is of the same level and is equipped as well as the rest of the party, you should be able to hit as well as they can. I'd ask the other players what they're doing different.
A rogue with a bowl of slop can be a controller.
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DM: Awesome. Yes.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 15, 2013 - 1:43PM
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Are we all jumping to conclusions here without seeing the numbers? Typical target AC and character level before I even start to form an opinion on this one.
If the player has an impression that the DM "hates" them, they should talk to the DM, even if the numbers are "right."
It's a very different conversation based on whether the numbers are right or wrong. If the OP comes back and tells us that the monsters' NADs seem to always be around 2 pts lower than their AC, the majority of the posters here would all be well within their rights to feel a little silly...
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