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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:38PM #31
zelink551
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Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:36PM, Misha wrote:

I gotta agree with Gunthar, if you really, really like your at will powers (and they are op'ed), Academy Master is a reasonable choice.  The PP has accuracy, rerolls, extra damage, power recovery and an increase of the duration of a special effect; these are all the hallmarks of a good PP.  Unfortunately, these options are sort of all over the place in terms of party role, so it is for more of a 'jack of all trades' sort of character.  

 




Nearly every Arcane Class except Artificers don't Op at-wills. Therefore its not good. Miss recovery isn't as good as pure power recovery, and going from EonT to (save ends) is rarely as impressive as it seems. Its simply nowhere near a "good PP"  

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:40PM #32
Planeswalker817
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Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:35PM, Mand12 wrote:

You really know how to make someone agreeing with you feel welcome.



Eh, he's always like that.  You get used to it after a while.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:46PM #33
zelink551
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There is no reason to sugarcoat untruths with niceties, especially with people I will never meet on the internet.
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:46PM #34
Mand12
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Except we do meet on the internet.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:48PM #35
zelink551
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Stop intentionally warping my words, the internet is inherently a different place than reality. Plus, nowhere was I rude, merely forceful.
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:53PM #36
Planeswalker817
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Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:46PM, zelink551 wrote:

There is no reason to sugarcoat untruths with niceties, especially with people I will never meet on the internet.



Agreed.  But one notes that you could get said blunt truths out into the open while being far less abrasive than you sometimes can be.  I wonder how many people argue with you actually thinking you're incorrect, and how many simply because they want to prove you wrong.

Or, to put it another way, bluntness gets people's attention, but abrasiveness just makes them quarrelsome.  ;p 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:55PM #37
Ambisinister
Date Joined: Jan 12, 2013
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I'm glad I could inspire such enthusiastic debate, though since we're long beyond the topic of implement choice, should I perhaps start a new topic more relevant to my current needs (I.e. talking about swordlocks.) ?

To answer an earlier question about my lack of swordmage warding: as I was attempting a build with a two handed weapon, I did not feel that the +1 AC warding would have given me justified a feat expenditure.

On the topic of Academy Master, I've never used it before, largely because it looked bland.

I also understand that this particular hybrid is not simple, I'm looking forward to playing a class that is going to require a bit of focus from me to play right. If I wanted simple, I'd just roll a ranger and twin strike my way to victory. (Please don't mistake my tone though, I really appreciate all of the feedback)
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 1:55PM #38
zelink551
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If people argue with me simply because they want to prove me wrong that is just sort of pathetic. It also means its not entirely my fault. See how I weasled that
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 2:00PM #39
Planeswalker817
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Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:55PM, zelink551 wrote:

If people argue with me simply because they want to prove me wrong that is just sort of pathetic. It also means its not entirely my fault. See how I weasled that



A lot of the internet is pathetic.  Has been for a very long time now.  Also largely irrelevant to the point at hand.  If you choose to be abrasive when you could very well get your point across simply being blunt, well, that's just a little bit pathetic as well.  And if you use "it's the internet, we'll never meet" as your excuse to remain abrasive, well, that's just a little bit more pathetic.  =D

Just saying. 

@Ambisinister:  Nah man, should be alright to keep it in this topic, no real need to make a second when it's all relevant to your character anyways. 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 14, 2013 - 2:02PM #40
Planeswalker817
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Jan 14, 2013 -- 2:00PM, Gunthar wrote:

True, but with the plethora of nice Immediate Action Encounter Powers (Dimensional Vortex, Transposing Lunge, Killing Flames, etc.) you may end up using your at-wills quite a bit anyway.



That's hardly a reason to optimize At-Wills, though.  I'm quite sure a number of other PPs are still going to offer you more overall.  ;p

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