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Jan 12, 2013 - 8:59AM
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The focus continues to be on classes, classes, and then classes.
Races continue to be ignored. The other tiers aren't seeing much extra love. And they're redesigning the fighter and martial dice yet again. After the better part of a year of playtesting (and with roughly a year before the game likely has to go to the printers) and they're still one at square one for the fighter...
It makes a lot of sense that the focus is on classes, it's the hardest thing to get right and balance because of their natural progression over levels.
Races are static, much easier to do. No need to be retooling Races every packet when you might have to change them again later to avoid some broken race/class combo.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 12, 2013 - 9:01AM
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Request to someone who's had time to watch it: did they address my question about communicating that 4e is part of the design?
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Jan 12, 2013 - 9:04AM
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I hope Skills are purely optional.
Agreed. Personally, for campaigns, I do plan on ignoring the default Skill system and just letting my PCs use their Skill Die based on their written backgrounds. I'd still use the Skill system for theoretical quick-play scenarios, though.
Exactly, I have used Skill systems, but I do no think they are necessary, sometimes the improv thing off of ability scores can yield more creativity (the option).
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Jan 12, 2013 - 9:05AM
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Request to someone who's had time to watch it: did they address my question about communicating that 4e is part of the design?
Hopefully not too much. ya know, for obvious reasons.
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Jan 12, 2013 - 9:10AM
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The focus continues to be on classes, classes, and then classes.
Races continue to be ignored. The other tiers aren't seeing much extra love. And they're redesigning the fighter and martial dice yet again. After the better part of a year of playtesting (and with roughly a year before the game likely has to go to the printers) and they're still one at square one for the fighter...
It makes a lot of sense that the focus is on classes, it's the hardest thing to get right and balance because of their natural progression over levels.
Races are static, much easier to do. No need to be retooling Races every packet when you might have to change them again later to avoid some broken race/class combo.
True, but you cannot even provide feedback on the races in the survey. So any new playtesters cannot comment on the races.
Plus, very little of the races changed.
Because the classes are so big they attract the attention. Few people likely paid too much attention to the races amid all the other mechanics.
One of the advantages of a long playtest is seeing how perspectives change and shift, and spotting small subtle problems that get missed amid larger problems. Now, after people have been playing the races for a while, would be a good time to get feedback.
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Jan 12, 2013 - 9:16AM
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The focus continues to be on classes, classes, and then classes.
Races continue to be ignored. The other tiers aren't seeing much extra love. And they're redesigning the fighter and martial dice yet again. After the better part of a year of playtesting (and with roughly a year before the game likely has to go to the printers) and they're still one at square one for the fighter...
I wouldn't say they are at square one with the fighter. They know what they want to do, they are just trying to find the best way to do it. That's square two at least.
True, but they're about to entirely overhaul it's mechanic again, restarting the process of balancing and delaying any mechanics that build off the base fighter. As long as they keep overhauling the fighter, we'll never see tactical or skirmish modules. Multiclassing is also delayed.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 12, 2013 - 9:21AM
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Re: Skill die vs. Skill bonus.
Adding the attribute and skill bonus together once is always faster than adding attribute bonus and rolled skill die every time you use the skill.
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Jan 12, 2013 - 9:27AM
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I think they are having trouble getting the fighter interesting without locking out actions from improvisation.
By the way they talking talk, the biggest fear they have is defining things in a way where only certain classes can do things that all character should be able to attempt with success WHILE giving each class something special.
They seem to want to avoid the issue of the past where "X class can only do Y" or "X is so good at Y, Z might as well sit out" where Y is an uncommon but not impossible thing like lockpicking, charming people, or jumping.
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Jan 12, 2013 - 9:27AM
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As long as they keep overhauling the fighter, we'll never see tactical or skirmish modules. Multiclassing is also delayed.
And other non-caster classes it would seem.
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Jan 12, 2013 - 10:41AM
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Skill dice are easier, but slower. Though i like that even experts can fail. Still, this is an easy place to put an option.
I'm worried that the fighter will be less dynamic. If you can't trip+push in the same attack, then it's a loss. Otherwise i approve of the moving to |W|, and giving everyone cleave. Now, if you could trip+push 2 people, we have a winner.
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