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Hrm.

Upon further review, I'm actually going to disagree with Alcestis's claim that the specified move actions are an exclusive list.  Before the dash, the rule is:

Same Move Action Twice: To take a double move, a creature must take the same move action twice in a row on the same turn

If you wanted to use an at-will move action power, as long as it was the same one twice it would meet the qualification for double move.  By my reading, all that matters is that it is the same move action, and that you're using it twice.  It doesn't even have to be at-will.  If it were a daily usage, that you got two of somehow, then that would also be acceptable.

I believe that this falls clearly into the category of "examples aren't rules."  If it had actually said "the only move actions you can use are run walk crawl shift" then sure, but what it says is "Same Move Action Twice" which is quite open-ended.

I just don't see the text indicating the exclusivity of the list.  Particularly when the term double move has a specific definition, stated rather clearly:

"Taking the same move action twice in a row is called taking a double move."

Even if we were to believe that the later list is exclusive, "taking the move action 'use power Ghost on the Rooftops' twice in a row" would also be "called taking a double move" by this definition.  There's literally no other way to interpret that.

Er, well, fine.  Special line removes it as an example.  But that's not the point!

Move 12 then land, in my opinion, because it says 'fly your speed.'  Your speed for the double move is 12, not 6.

Jan 11, 2013 -- 1:17PM, mvincent wrote:

Jan 11, 2013 -- 1:06PM, Mand12 wrote:

it says 'fly your speed.'  Your speed for the double move is 12, not 6.

Double move doesn't double your 'speed': (PHB p.284) "When you double move, add the speeds of the two move actions together and then move".  That interpretation seems like it could break some powers and abilities that are based on speed...

It works for powers the same as it does for the Walk action:

Walk
         Action: Move action.
         Movement: The creature moves up to its speed.

Nearly every power in the game that causes movement based on speed has the same structure as the Walk action.  If those don't work, then Walk is broken as well.

If you think it doesn't double your 'speed' in the above example, then you shouldn't think it does it here either.  But it does do that, so your thinking is incorrect.

Derh.  Yeah, forgot the 1/turn limit.  Still, it's a long jump.  So you're saying I couldn't make a jump with Athletics, and use a double move to continue the jump with Ghost, because it would be combining a walk action with a power, despite the fact I'm doing the same thing with both?

Jan 11, 2013 -- 2:02PM, Alcestis wrote:

Problem with that is the part you're quoting Mand. It says "Take the same Move action" twice." Which is not to say you a use a move action to take the same action twice, but you are literally doing the same Move Action twice. Move Actions have a list of what they are (RC 203). The term is just being overloaded, as usual. The list after the dash is just relisting the default move actions as a reminder, since it appeared earlier in the movement rules.

Are you really saying that using a power that requires a move action is not a move action?