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5 months ago ::
Jan 11, 2013 - 6:55AM
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He's certainly a bit morally ambiguous if he's executing the helpless, but I can understand it. It is a tactically sound decision and one of moral importance (to your character).
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5 months ago ::
Jan 11, 2013 - 9:14PM
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I had an anti-hero character I used to play, and idea that let me work with it was this. He had a deep code of conduct, morality, and behavior. But in his mind, once the moral decision had been made that violence was an appropriate answer to a problem, that was it. Over and done with. Whether he slit the guy's throat while he slept, hacked him down in a high-noon showdown, dropped a mountainside on his head, or ran his enemy through after capturing him. The moral decision had already been made, the means to that end were irrelevant. The important decision is whether or not to kill somebody, not whether or not to challenge him to a duel vs. bushwhacking him.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 12, 2013 - 12:44AM
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I had an anti-hero character I used to play, and idea that let me work with it was this. He had a deep code of conduct, morality, and behavior. But in his mind, once the moral decision had been made that violence was an appropriate answer to a problem, that was it. Over and done with. Whether he slit the guy's throat while he slept, hacked him down in a high-noon showdown, dropped a mountainside on his head, or ran his enemy through after capturing him. The moral decision had already been made, the means to that end were irrelevant. The important decision is whether or not to kill somebody, not whether or not to challenge him to a duel vs. bushwhacking him.
This is about what I am trying to accomplish, and your post helps me fine-tune it some more. Thanks!
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5 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 5:13PM
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Avenger (wis based) and Wizard (int based) sounds like a rather weak hybrid as well.
Considering that Avengers have Int as a secondary stat, and Wizards Wis as a secondary stat, it isn't actually as weak as you think it might be.
Anyway, yeah, one other thing you might want to do is have your character continually struggle with his choices, always unsure if he's doing the right thing.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 17, 2013 - 1:27AM
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Avenger (wis based) and Wizard (int based) sounds like a rather weak hybrid as well.
Considering that Avengers have Int as a secondary stat, and Wizards Wis as a secondary stat, it isn't actually as weak as you think it might be.
Anyway, yeah, one other thing you might want to do is have your character continually struggle with his choices, always unsure if he's doing the right thing.
I started him off with 18wis/18int, he won't be optimized per-se, but nothing too dramatic either.
Thanks for the suggestion, I think I won't have him doubt it all the time but rather have him have one major crisis at some point or another, where he will be pseudo-depressed.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 8:24PM
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Here's some thoughts:
Executing a helpless opponent is not always wrong. If fact, there are situations where not executing a helpless opponent is wrong. Most evil opponents will go on to hurt more people if you spare them, so the "good" act of sparing them will just end in innocent people being hurt later on. As Wishful said, if the person needs to die, the person needs to die.
Your character could even have the sort of philosphy that he has to do things that others would find morally repugnant. I. e., he doesn't want to kill the helpless mass murderer, but he knows no one else will, and the murderer has to die, so he takes the burden upon himself and guts the sucker.
Hope that helps.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2013 - 8:57PM
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Since you are part wizard, there is a good start for your dark character.
Whenever you use a wizard area burst and blast power, ignore the fact that there are any allies in the effected area. It's their fault that they're there. You are a zealot and will stop at nothing to destroy your enemy. If your allies get in the way...too bad for them.
Then pick up feats that allow you to transfer damage or effects to others in your group. Finally, focus on wizard summon powers that bring in demons.
You could also reconsider races...vrylock, revenant, shade, or one of the monster manual races.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:24PM
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Thanks for the feedback you two!
@JensaariWarrior I like the 'sacrifice your own morality' mentallity and will certainly include this in my character.
@da_duke I don't think I will be targetting allied party members, the goal is to protect my friends, by slaying my/their enemies, so that they needn't suffer any more harm.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 9:12PM
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Most people don't understand the diference between good and merciful. try reading The Prince, by Machiavelli. alternatively read this quote from a recent commercial i saw: "I have a rule, i do what i say. if someone doesn't do what they said they would, i make then regret it for the rest of their lives."
In general, make him a defender of the weak, but his way of protecting people is by killing those who would harm them, hunting them down like beasts. hold no bars, and always run 100% violence on those who deserve it, but never hurt someone who doesn't. break the law when the law impedes justice, but don't look for chances to commit crimes.
hope this helps.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:31AM
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Most people don't understand the diference between good and merciful. try reading The Prince, by Machiavelli. alternatively read this quote from a recent commercial i saw: "I have a rule, i do what i say. if someone doesn't do what they said they would, i make then regret it for the rest of their lives."
In general, make him a defender of the weak, but his way of protecting people is by killing those who would harm them, hunting them down like beasts. hold no bars, and always run 100% violence on those who deserve it, but never hurt someone who doesn't. break the law when the law impedes justice, but don't look for chances to commit crimes.
hope this helps.
+1 thanks 
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