Community

 
Dungeons & Dra.. Player Playtest Se.. Spellcasting Too Disconnected from Spellcasting...
Jump Menu:
Post Reply
Page 3 of 3  •  Prev 1 2 3
Switch to Forum Live View Spellcasting Too Disconnected from Spellcasting Stat?
4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 7:12PM #21
Sir_Kraemer
Date Joined: Aug 11, 2008
Posts: 83
Isn't cure minor wounds a cantrip? Can't every cleric take it and heal their party to full health between encounters?"

   
   
        height="100" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
    pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer" />
Quick Reply
Cancel
4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 11:50PM #22
Saelorn
Date Joined: May 27, 2012
Posts: 2,963

Jan 19, 2013 -- 7:12PM, Sir_Kraemer wrote:

Isn't cure minor wounds a cantrip? Can't every cleric take it and heal their party to full health between encounters?"


It only works on a target who has 3 HP or less, so at most you can get people up to 4 HP between encounters.

The metagame is not the game.
Quick Reply
Cancel
4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 11:52AM #23
Sir_Kraemer
Date Joined: Aug 11, 2008
Posts: 83
Yeesh. That's a pretty nasty blow to the wand of cure minor wounds after every encounter approach my group used when I played 3.5.

   
   
        height="100" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
    pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer" />
Quick Reply
Cancel
4 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 6:06PM #24
Sevus
Date Joined: Jun 27, 2011
Posts: 335

Jan 20, 2013 -- 11:52AM, Sir_Kraemer wrote:

Yeesh. That's a pretty nasty blow to the wand of cure minor wounds after every encounter approach my group used when I played 3.5.




Now why would anyone do that when you could get 10 hp a charge from a wand of lesser vigor?

Quick Reply
Cancel
4 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 11:43PM #25
bengilmer
Date Joined: Feb 10, 2011
Posts: 189
I like the versatility of the cleric as it stands.

If you want to be more about melee, you buff strength or dex and take spells that don't require a roll or a save.

If you want to be more spellcastery, you buff wisdom to increase your chance of hitting, and bumping up your save DC.

If you want to play more of a pacifist cleric, bump up your charisma to help you excell at social situations since neither wisdom nor strength will be important to you. 
Quick Reply
Cancel
4 months ago  ::  Feb 04, 2013 - 7:47PM #26
rutkowsk7847
Date Joined: May 25, 2012
Posts: 8

Jan 16, 2013 -- 2:16PM, Saelorn wrote:

Jan 16, 2013 -- 1:53PM, trismagestus wrote:

But that's moving the goal-post from '4E didn't have the Healer Cleric' to 'The very first book didn't have the Healer Cleric'.


To someone who only bought the first book, that very first book is the entirety of 4E.  In the same way, it was the entirety of 4E for everyone, before additional books were released. Anyone who bases an opinion on that sort of information is entirely correct, when accounting for those constraints.  The map is not the territory.

You couldn't play a focused healer-type cleric in core 4E - you were limited to two words per encounter, and possibly some other abilities at higher levels, but most importantly it didn't take your action to heal.  If you wanted to play the healer type, you were expected to attack things every round, which really kills the feel of the character.




However, complaining that the 1st rulebook did not provide a specific option, though valid, IMO misses the point of a new rule edition.  I could not play a barbarian or a sorcerer either.  I was equally unhappy at the edition change to 4e based on the options available at first printing, but they met the baseline for the most part in getting the main class concepts in the game.  This was especially true given the desire to separate healing from character options in combat.  This has been the complaint for most players IME as relates to clerics for 30+ years. 

Quick Reply
Cancel
Page 3 of 3  •  Prev 1 2 3
Jump Menu:
 
Dungeons & Dra.. Player Playtest Se.. Spellcasting Too Disconnected from Spellcasting...
    Viewing this thread :: 0 registered and 1 guest
    No registered users viewing