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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 11:59AM #21
Mithrus
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If WotC introduces an arcane base class of the cleric (martial/magical hybrid), the need for multiclassing is only needed for the characters that have a vocational change during their adventuring career (not terribly common IME, but it does happen). That it took a third party (Paizo) to develop one (magus) first has me /facedesk'ing if I think on it too long. Yes, the 4e swordmage and bladesinger are true hybrids, but the concept was far too narrowly implemented for a base class.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 12:13PM #22
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Jan 4, 2013 -- 11:59AM, Mithrus wrote:

That it took a third party (Paizo) to develop one (magus) first has me /facedesk'ing if I think on it too long.


The Magus class is very similar to the Duskblade from late 3.5 - they share the signature ability to cast touch spells through a weapon as part of a melee attack.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 12:15PM #23
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Jan 4, 2013 -- 11:50AM, Rastapopoulos wrote:


I find the two proposal so different from each other, that both systems could actually coexist, as two separate options for players to mix roles in the game.




4es hybriding worked fine alongside the dabbling (which was still over expensive most of the time)

That said if somebody dramatically reconcieves a character ... rebuilding the character comes to mind.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 12:30PM #24
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Jan 4, 2013 -- 12:13PM, Saelorn wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 11:59AM, Mithrus wrote:

That it took a third party (Paizo) to develop one (magus) first has me /facedesk'ing if I think on it too long.


The Magus class is very similar to the Duskblade from late 3.5 - they share the signature ability to cast touch spells through a weapon as part of a melee attack.


That's true. I forget about the Duskblade, it came out a bit late for me. I was burnt out of 3.5 by then. It still seems odd WotC left the concept to a single class in 4e, and in a campaign sourcebook at that. I hope to see one soon in a future playtest packet.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 3:55PM #25
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I like 4e, but I wouldn't call what 4e called multiclassing a multiclassing system. It was a power-swapping system, or, more frequently, just a feat tax on taking feats or PrCs that had other classes as prereqs. I would call its hybridding system a multiclassing system, and a really good one, albeit one that could have been better had it been around from the beginning, allowing classes to be constructed a little more with it in mind and potentially avoiding some of the awkwardness it brought along.
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