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5 months ago  ::  Dec 31, 2012 - 10:27PM #11
vitamin_q
Date Joined: May 19, 2011
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The ritual 'Hallowed Temple' and the magic item 'Exodus knife" could each allow you to protect them for 8 hours.
I second the recomendation of opening a portal to the astral sea, and hiding them in a leomunds chest on some distant earth mote. You could also use the item "gloves of storing" to hold 2 of them a piece. This ensures that he will not get them without incapacitating the party.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 5:26AM #12
merb101
Date Joined: Feb 6, 2007
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The group I DM for are trying to keep a sword with a necroshard away from a group of Necromancers who want to use the shard to raise an army. They found a higher level wizard who cast Aura Mask (lvl 8 ritual) on the sword to make it appear nonmagical. They also secured a golden eye to the scabbard, so as long as the sword is sheathed or within 20 squares of the sheathe, the ritual remains in effect. He taught one of the group's casters the ritual, but since it uses an arcana role to set the DC of magically detecting the sword, the original caster's DC is probably higher than the players can achieve at this point.

It does not, however, prevent the bad guys from tracking the PCs themselves ...
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 8:19AM #13
Salla
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 5:26AM, merb101 wrote:

The group I DM for are trying to keep a sword with a necroshard away from a group of Necromancers who want to use the shard to raise an army. They found a higher level wizard who cast Aura Mask (lvl 8 ritual) on the sword to make it appear nonmagical. They also secured a golden eye to the scabbard, so as long as the sword is sheathed or within 20 squares of the sheathe, the ritual remains in effect. He taught one of the group's casters the ritual, but since it uses an arcana role to set the DC of magically detecting the sword, the original caster's DC is probably higher than the players can achieve at this point.

It does not, however, prevent the bad guys from tracking the PCs themselves ...




This is definitely one of those cases where my first thought would be 'Let's see if we can destroy this thing'.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 8:37AM #14
merb101
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 8:19AM, Salla wrote:

Jan 2, 2013 -- 5:26AM, merb101 wrote:

The group I DM for are trying to keep a sword with a necroshard away from a group of Necromancers who want to use the shard to raise an army. They found a higher level wizard who cast Aura Mask (lvl 8 ritual) on the sword to make it appear nonmagical. They also secured a golden eye to the scabbard, so as long as the sword is sheathed or within 20 squares of the sheathe, the ritual remains in effect. He taught one of the group's casters the ritual, but since it uses an arcana role to set the DC of magically detecting the sword, the original caster's DC is probably higher than the players can achieve at this point.

It does not, however, prevent the bad guys from tracking the PCs themselves ...




This is definitely one of those cases where my first thought would be 'Let's see if we can destroy this thing'.




Yeah, they are looking into that, but it leads them into much more dangerous territory, and the group decided the weapon still would be safer with them than trying to hide it somewhere.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 4:01AM #15
Hengeyokai
Date Joined: Jul 23, 2012
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I'd do the cool bag trick and then make a load of fakes and give them out to the party. Make sure that nobody knows about the fakes outside the party. If a party member is then in a situation where they have to give up an orb they can just yell "NEVER!" and distroy it, or better yet make him think you ported it to another dimention so he has a chance of running off on a pointless quest. Make sure you all have clear plans on how to distroy the fakes in a way that looks real. (Villan running off and leaving his home base ungarded is also a cool plot-hook)
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 8:03AM #16
DorAndOrX
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Swallow them
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 8:19AM #17
Matyr
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Jan 4, 2013 -- 8:03AM, DorAndOrX wrote:

Swallow them




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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 8:22AM #18
Beldak_Serpenthelm
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And then he can't get it without a cutting weapon and a willingness to hurt people, and he doesn't have any of those, right?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 10:45AM #19
Salla
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Jan 4, 2013 -- 8:22AM, Beldak_Serpenthelm wrote:

And then he can't get it without a cutting weapon and a willingness to hurt people, and he doesn't have any of those, right?




Or waiting for a while ...

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 12:27PM #20
WolfLordBran
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Jan 4, 2013 -- 10:45AM, Salla wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 8:22AM, Beldak_Serpenthelm wrote:

And then he can't get it without a cutting weapon and a willingness to hurt people, and he doesn't have any of those, right?




Or waiting for a while ...




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