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5 months ago ::
Dec 28, 2012 - 10:02PM
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What is the best class to use to have the highest ac I can get from 1st level to 20th level. I heard monk is good but how to distribute ability points and still be able to do damage? also i tried paladin with best armor and only got to 26 ac. I read that wizards can reach the highest ac with spells i guess but im not experienced enough to be a wizard.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 7:24AM
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Why do you want the best AC?
What does having a high AC give you - what are you trying to achieve with it?
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 8:11AM
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the best non-infinate AC I have seen was made like this http://community.wizards.com//go/thread/view/75882/19865126/Got_bored..._which_resulted_in_a_new_AC_record . Miss chance that gives you better than 1/20 odds of being hit is still better than any AC. What is your goal for this thread? Having a high AC just for the sake of it? Use Ottos build.
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http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28835423/Krusks_5e_Design_Goals?sdb=1
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:03AM
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Paladin is the only class that can start in plate. Does that answer your question ?
I can recommend you go to the charop forum and read some handbooks.
Paladin level 20 in a common magic +5 (lvl 21) plate armor should have something like 37 AC, without even taking any sort of defensive feats.
Any light armor / cloth class like monks, avengers can only achieve high AC by boosting Dex, and taking some feats.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:29AM
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Paladin is the only class that can start in plate. Does that answer your question ?
No, it really doesn't, since plate/shield isn't the only way to get to max AC at level 1.
Also, it's incorrect, since Knights also come with plate proficiency, and any class that gets scale can buy plate at level 1 for a moderate investment.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:34AM
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Sure, whatever. The original poster is so vague in his question as to make it impossible to answer.
Let me rephrase: there are a few classes, among which the Knight and Paladin, that start with a proficiency in plate, so without a feat or any other investment you could start with a decently high AC.
Other classes, mostly in light armor, can boost their AC with feats and/or good abilities scores in Dex/Int.
However, if you tell us what it is you are looking for or hoping to achieve, we can better assist you finding an answer.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 2:54PM
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Other classes, mostly in light armor, can boost their AC with feats and/or good abilities scores in Dex/Int.
Also, some classes allow you to boost AC with other ability scores, such as the Seeker and the Warden
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 3:02PM
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There are plenty of ways to get high AC. Avenger or Monk with Unarmored Agility and high dexterity/intelligence. If you go with a human, pick up Hafted Defense and give them staves.
Heck, make a human wizard. Get them the Staff of Defense feature, 20 Intelligence, Unarmored Agility and Hafted Defense. You have now have high AC on one of the squishiest classes in the game.
But you don't need huge AC. You just want to avoid low AC. Which pretty much every class can do with ease, since every class has some means of boosting their AC, either through getting heavy armor by default or using one of their secondary or primary stats for AC with light armor proficiencies.
Gunmage, a homebrew arcane striker. (Heroic Tier playtest ready.) GDocs link. (More up to date.)
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 3:05PM
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All of this still trying to catch fog with a butterfly net until the OP is more specific in what he wants and hopes to achieve.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 3:29PM
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If you're trying to make the toughest character you can, it's a question of more than just your base full-time AC value. Toughness is also a function of your other defenses, HP, availability of self-healing, temporary buffs to defenses and debuffs to enemy attacks, saving throws and ability to shrug off status effects, etc.
The general consensus is that the Warden is the toughest class; especially a con-based Warden like an Earthstrength.
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