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5 months ago  ::  Dec 28, 2012 - 8:28PM #1
Lucenstall
Date Joined: Dec 26, 2012
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Good Duergar class?
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 8:16AM #2
Krusk
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-Whats your goal with the character, the more info you provide the more you will get in return.

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 4:04PM #3
Matyr
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Dec 28, 2012 -- 8:28PM, Lucenstall wrote:

Good Duergar class?




In 4e the answer is N/A.   Be a dwarf or a mul and then go from there.

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 8:21PM #4
Lucenstall
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Dec 29, 2012 -- 4:04PM, Matyr wrote:

Dec 28, 2012 -- 8:28PM, Lucenstall wrote:

Good Duergar class?




In 4e the answer is N/A.   Be a dwarf or a mul and then go from there.



 Are Duergar not playable in 4e?
 

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 8:23PM #5
Matyr
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They are playable in that you can select them as a race.

However they are in nearly every way worse than dwarf.  Dwarves have awesome feat support, items built for them, and, in general, can do everything a duergar can do but better (no darkvision is about the only caveat).
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 8:27PM #6
Lucenstall
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That always seems to be the case with dark dwarves in fantasy games . But I've always liked them. Despite your opinion on the Duergar what would you suggest for a class?
 
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 8:30PM #7
Salla
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You could just play a dwarf mechanically and reflavor it into a Duergar.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 8:37PM #8
Lucenstall
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Dec 29, 2012 -- 8:30PM, Salla wrote:

You could just play a dwarf mechanically and reflavor it into a Duergar.




I could but it wouldn't be playing Duergar. I know they are not the greatest race but I really like the Duergar.tEver since I started playing fantasy games I've always liked dark dwarves idk why the race just has always appealed to me.
 

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 29, 2012 - 8:58PM #9
Matyr
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You can  make it as a bunch of different classes.  You have the compedium so just look it up.

You can play a dwarf and say it is a dark dwarf.  This way leads your character to be stronger, have more options, and in general be better.

It is very easy for you to look up the race and see what stats go with what class.  Not doing it is just being lazy.  It is very easy to reflavor a X dwarf to be a Y dwarf.  Not doing it will make your character less interesting and mechanically worse.

I don't want to contribute to your laziness, or to making your character worse. 
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 30, 2012 - 7:32AM #10
Krusk
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My fault, assumed 3.5, because duegar don't have official as PC write ups in 4e. 

In that case fighter.

I will reiterate that you will get better answers if you provide more info on what you want to play.  
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