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Dec 26, 2012 -- 9:03AM, Ron4RPG wrote:

Hello

I have a question about how wotc handles new versions of D&D in relation to the old version...

Will they support 4e rules after the release of the 5th edition? If so how much? Will they release more content?

How long is the standard run of a D&D version?

The reason why I am concerened is because I have dropped well over a grand or more on most of the 4th ed books and soon found out that a 5th edition is in the works. I have played rolemaster / harp games for years but in the last year or so switched to 4th ed willing to try it out and for the sure amount of material out there. I would at least  like to get some 4e support after 5th release because now days I do not have loads of time to put together a game. If wotc drops all support I will be hard pressed to buy the books for 5th ed like I did for 4th edition, because the "waste of money" for un-supported books. Yes we can keep using the 4th books, but keep in mind that I im coming from the extra support (by way of adventures and other type materials..) you get with the edition not the ability to play the edition....any thoughts on how others are going to make the switch....

Thanks

Ron

IMO, 4e is the best version of the game yet.

Any future materials WOTC produces that are version-specific to 5e will not get any money from me.   Almost everything I've read about DDN undos the advances the game made in it's previous iterations.

I think there's plenty of material out there to keep me going on 4e for the rest of my life (turned 50 2 months ago).

I find myself conflicted because while I feel no particular loyalty to WOTC, I certainly do want "the company that makes D&D" to continue to exist.   At the same time, I want (and expect) to see 5e burn and die.

Jan 3, 2013 -- 5:59PM, crzyhawk wrote:

This.  WotC is making a mistake.  The split the population with 4e, which essentially opened pandora's box.  Pleasing the 3.5 people who hate 4e is not going to magically re-unify the gaming community.  The people who think that 5e is a step back, are going to likely be just as stubborn as the 3.5 people and stay with the system they prefer.  The smart money would be to create 5e, and continue to support 4e, and get both side's money.  WotC isn't interested in smart money though.

I think is more the case of Mearls being delusional at this point....

Jan 3, 2013 -- 6:41PM, crzyhawk wrote:

Eh, I see them trying to regain the people they lost.  I think that's an honorable intent.  The fact is, that despite the same name and genre, 4e plays a bit differently then the other editions.  What I think WotC is underestimating, is the amount that 4e players /like/ 4e.

I believe they think we 4e players are mostly just the brand loyal, and stuck with 4e because it's "D&D".  If that were the case, the 4e players would gladly move on to 5e, and re-unify the community.  Reading /any/ 3e vs 4e thread tells me, that is an incorrect assumption.  4e players are passionate about the rules and mechanics, not the name.  4e fans think 4e is better, and they are not going to accept the step back into the dark ages that 5e represents.

the community is split.  It's not going to be re-united and many people won't play a game just because it's D&D.  That's the mistake they are making...they refuse to accept that the split community cannot and will not be mended.

Also from what i have noticed, 4e playerbase are younger than 1e/2e/3e and PF players...they react very diferent to things because generation gap...

Jan 3, 2013 -- 9:49PM, crzyhawk wrote:

Honestly, I can't comment about this.  I'm 36, and been playing since the mid 80s or so.  I played mostly 2e. When I first read the 4e rules I thought it was going to suck and dismissed it out of hand.  My current DM talked me into giving it a fair try, and I did...and found it to be the superior game.

I won't say that the "old school" is wrong.  I think both sides have valid points.  I truly dislike the arrogance of the vast majority of the "old school" and the way many of them attack 4e, and figure they deserve what they tend to stir up from the 4e fans.  My biased opionion only.

i am 27, and i am one of the oldest 4e players between the groups i have played...thought i have still noticed, people that played former editions are usually the worst at understanding and playing 4th edition...like a rogue player saying he have class features from 3rd edition...when rogues don't get those...those are feats and their function is very diferent...or grabing feats that have the same name as on 3rd edition and expect them to be exactly like their 3rd edition counterpart...or wanting to make reflex save...and adding alot of bonus that doesn't exist on top of it...and i have to tell him that it doesn't work that way and that he should roll acrobatics check instead...